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To: Hoodat

Not exactly true. Until this election they’d always had a vote at the convention which was non binding but gave a sense of where the sympathies lay. Colorado was told by the national GOP that they could not have a vote at the convention and then not assign delegates proportionally. To me that sounds like the national party was asking them to have a primary. Instead they abolished the convention vote. Note: There were lots of Trump delegates seeking support in the room. It is not a winner take all state. It seems rather improbable that not one of the many Trump delegates in the room was not chosen if the process was not rigged.

If you cannot see how the system in place at least looks corrupt and dishonest, especially to people that were new to the system and how they might legitimately feel they’d been cheated then I don’t think I can explain it to you.


62 posted on 04/16/2016 8:39:58 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Fai Mao
The National GOP (i.e. the GOPe) tried to force Colorado to bind their delegates based on the poll. Colorado refused. And this is the biggest irony of all. Trump supporters have convinced themselves that this was all some GOPe/Cruz plot when in fact, it was the rejection of the GOPe that caused the action. And the action was actually a non-action since they refused to make the change that the GOPe requested. And after much argument last August, they decided the best way to avoid GOPe interference in their election was to eliminate the straw poll altogether.


There were lots of Trump delegates seeking support in the room. It is not a winner take all state. It seems rather improbable that not one of the many Trump delegates in the room was not chosen if the process was not rigged.

It is highly probable when you consider the disorganization of the Trump campaign:

Colorado loss reveals chaotic, overwhelmed Trump campaign

Trump's state director, Patrick Davis, was hired on April 5, just four days before the Convention. They had zero organization at the Convention, and it cost them.

Contrast that with Ted Cruz who actually delivered a speech at that Convention. Ted Cruz had a state director already in place last December. The Cruz ground game drafted supporters to get involved, participate in the caucuses over a month ago, and volunteer their time to serve as convention reps. And once there, they got to know their delegates and handed out flyers supporting their delegates.

Trump got beat. Plain and simple.

77 posted on 04/16/2016 9:22:36 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Fai Mao; Hoodat
Not exactly true. Until this election they’d always had a vote at the convention which was non binding but gave a sense of where the sympathies lay.

No, they had a straw poll for the last two or three presidential elections. But the actual election process has not changed in nearly 100 years.

Note: There were lots of Trump delegates seeking support in the room. It is not a winner take all state. It seems rather improbable that not one of the many Trump delegates in the room was not chosen if the process was not rigged.

Eight of the alternate delegates were awarded to Trump, elected just like the rest... and Trump's own people on the ground admit they blew it.

If you cannot see how the system in place at least looks corrupt and dishonest, especially to people that were new to the system and how they might legitimately feel they’d been cheated then I don’t think I can explain it to you.

Seems to me it ain't none of our business. It is the business of the sovereign people of the State of Colorado, who have found this system to be satisfactory for a very, very long time. And in the independent spirit of the Rocky Mountain States, I am sure they don't appreciate all y'all telling them they are too stupid to know what to do.

If they want to change it they will.

110 posted on 04/16/2016 12:44:22 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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