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Winning the popular vote might not help Donald in Pennsylvania(NY Post)
NY Post ^ | April 15, 2016 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 04/15/2016 9:21:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Donald Trump could easily win Pennsylvania’s popular vote in a couple of weeks — but end up with less than a majority of its delegates under the state’s quirky rules.

A Monmouth University poll released Thursday shows Trump with a large lead in the delegate-rich Keystone State, with 44 percent of the vote to 28 for Ted Cruz and 23 for John Kasich.

Trump leads in all regions of the state ahead of the April 26 primary. But while he may get the most votes, he might not get most of the 71 delegates. Only 17 of the state’s 71 delegates are awarded to the top vote getter.

The other 54 are assigned to candidates running for delegate spots in 18 congressional districts. Under the rules, the 54 elected delegates can vote for whomever they want for president at the GOP convention in Cleveland this summer.

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Pennsylvania GOP officials said the Cruz campaign has been the most organized in fielding candidates in delegate races.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: pa; paprimary; pennsylvania; trump
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GO TED!
1 posted on 04/15/2016 9:21:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

I’ve said MANY times ‘Trump will win the popular vote in PA, but the delegates have, as usual, been bought off by Gleason and the RNC.” Why don’t they advertise who the delegates support? They are bought.


2 posted on 04/15/2016 9:27:19 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: sickoflibs
Donald Trump could easily win Pennsylvania’s popular vote in a couple of weeks — but end up with less than a majority of its delegates under the state’s quirky rules.

Quirky rules? Er, no. A quirky rule would be one requiring a voter to show up wearing a cowboy hat. These are corrupt rules, as they vest ultimate power not in the electorate but in a handful of party insiders.

And long-term, this is not a Trump vs. Cruz issue. It's an electorate vs. party insider issue. And since the insiders like neither Trump nor Cruz, I expect we'll be seeing more of this.

3 posted on 04/15/2016 9:32:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: sickoflibs

GO TURD!


4 posted on 04/15/2016 9:33:38 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Safetgiver

I think if it’s raining on election day, then the plurality winner should get more delegates. If it’s not raining, the person who comes in second should get them.

If it’s windy, above 20mph gusts, but below 30mph gusts, then the last place person should get the majority of the delegates.

If it’s windy AND raining, well then we’ve got trouble. If the gusts go above 30, the equation needs two chalkboards.

Makes as much sense as what I’ve been reading for the past month.


5 posted on 04/15/2016 9:33:41 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: sickoflibs

Predicting another “Sore Gore” tally?


6 posted on 04/15/2016 9:34:50 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: sickoflibs

That is possible, but unlikely. Many of the 54 uncommitted delegates in PA say they’ll vote for state winner. Tom Marino says Trump will get 50+.


7 posted on 04/15/2016 9:39:51 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: sickoflibs

This isn’t democracy. It’s Tammany Hall without the coverup.


8 posted on 04/15/2016 9:45:47 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: pburgh01

You can’t polish a Turd Cruz.


9 posted on 04/15/2016 9:46:31 AM PDT by WMarshal (War came to Chicago and Cruz joined the Enemy)
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To: sickoflibs

Damn you Ted you cheated by putting in more effort and understanding the rules. That is just totally wrong. That is unless Trump wins.


10 posted on 04/15/2016 9:47:12 AM PDT by jimpick
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RE:”Damn you Ted you cheated by putting in more effort and understanding the rules. That is just totally wrong. That is unless Trump wins.”

HAHA, everything is OK as long as Trump gets his way.

11 posted on 04/15/2016 9:51:12 AM PDT by sickoflibs (MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE COUNTS! VOTE TED CRUZ SO THAT YOUR VOTES TRANSLATES INTO DELEGATES!)
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To: sickoflibs

And that my friends exposes the corruption in the primary process. Of course the Cruz supporters are very happy to bypass the wishes of the voters just so that their candidate wins. Their hypocrisy is being exposed time and again.


12 posted on 04/15/2016 9:51:47 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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Yeh because we need more dems voting for republican candidates with cross over voting like here in Michigan. So much better to let the dems choose our candidates. Unless the 20,000 cross over dems are in a state Trump wins then it is OK.


13 posted on 04/15/2016 9:57:43 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Safetgiver

I live in PA and have a list of the unbound delegates and who they support. Over 60% have pledged to vote for whoever their district chooses, on the first ballot. So if Trump does well, he will get the majority of unbound delegates as well.

I’ve researched this over the past few weeks, and PAs unbound delegates aren’t nearly as bad for Trump as everyone will think. My districts delegates were just on my local news the other night and all said they are supporting the will of the people.


14 posted on 04/15/2016 9:59:24 AM PDT by Rufus Shinra (Voting in my first primary in PA on April 26th!)
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On paper it may look like good news for Ted, but in PA we vote for our district’s delegates on our ballot, the same one we vote for our state wide candidate to be. Since Trump is leading in PA, and most unbound delegates have already pledged to support the vote of the people, Trump will get the aorist of those unbound delegates on the first ballot.


15 posted on 04/15/2016 10:01:52 AM PDT by Rufus Shinra (Voting in my first primary in PA on April 26th!)
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Ted you cheated by putting in more effort and understanding the rules.


That’s not how it works here. Cruz loses and gets some never trump vote. But that is by default since there are only 2 candiates left, not from Cruz’s understanding of the rules. Trump will win PA and get the majority of delegates.


16 posted on 04/15/2016 10:06:57 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: sickoflibs

It’s not anti-democratic, it’s “quirky”! That sounds way better.


17 posted on 04/15/2016 10:07:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Safetgiver
Chairman Gleason likes having delegates chosen by congressional district. He opposed the same system for electoral votes when a GOP legislature was poised to implement the same system for electoral votes in 2011 and a GOP governor was pledged to sign it.

If Trump wins big in Pennsylvania on April 26 (as seems likely) and doesn't walk away with at least 40 or so of the 71 delegates, there will be demands for reform which cannot be swept under the rug.

18 posted on 04/15/2016 10:16:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: sickoflibs

If nothing else, this election cycle has shown the country how corrupt the primary process in both parties is. There needs to be real reform before the 2020 race gets underway.


19 posted on 04/15/2016 10:18:05 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Rufus Shinra

all said they are supporting the will of the people.......Which is weasel words In PA for “Whoever Gleason tell Us.” Trust me, the Repubs in PA do what they are told. Reference Toomey, the current state government (need all that UNION money) I don’t know if you are aware, PA is the third most corrupt state in what used to be the Union of States.


20 posted on 04/15/2016 10:22:08 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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