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RAF jets to face US F-22 stealth fighters in mock battles over UK
The Telegraph, U.K. ^ | 13 APRIL 2016 | Ben Farmer

Posted on 04/14/2016 10:50:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

RAF jets will battle American stealth fighters in mock dogfights over Britain for the first time in the coming days.

British Typhoon fighters will take part in air-to-air combat drills against United States Air Force F-22 Raptor jets.

The contests will be the first time the aircraft have gone head-to-head in UK skies, RAF sources said.

A dozen F-22s arrived at RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk earlier this week and are due to stay for practice missions with the RAF until the start of next month.

An RAF source said the allies were likely to fight scenarios at both close visual range, where he said the Typhoon might have the edge, and at longer range where the F-22’s stealth was likely to help it triumph.

He said: “What you can’t see, you can’t shoot.

“This isn’t the Battle of Britain, shouting ‘Tally Ho!’, getting behind someone and giving them all guns.

“We are launching missiles from 25 to 30 miles away and flying at supersonic speeds.

“In terms of long range war, I would suggest the F-22 would have the edge. In terms of a pure dogfight, turning and burning, I think the Typhoon would certainly hold its own. It’s two very different fights.”

Typhoons have met F-22 fighters in training exercises in the US before.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f22; raf; usaf

US Air Force F-22s and RAF Typhoons will face each other in air-to-air combat drills

CREDIT: SAC MARK PARKINSON/MOD

1 posted on 04/14/2016 10:50:50 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is Tom Cruise gonna be there?

what would the next war entail? dogfights or missiles from 30 miles?


2 posted on 04/14/2016 10:55:20 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622
Missiles or lasers.
3 posted on 04/14/2016 11:05:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Would the better jammers available now render missiles ineffective ? Or are there jammer jammers available too?

I seem to recall Indian MiG 21s with Israeli jammers giving the USAF a surprise during exercises in Kalaikunda .....


4 posted on 04/14/2016 11:30:11 PM PDT by IndianChief
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Have a feeling we will be coming home with one less than we started with.


5 posted on 04/14/2016 11:32:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Russians are experts at jamming technology and possibly have “plasma stealth” technology.


6 posted on 04/14/2016 11:39:27 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pretty soon “dogfights” will consist of stealth drone missile platforms facing off at a hundred miles separation.


7 posted on 04/15/2016 12:02:51 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Thunder90

The US is better at jamming technology (I’d also put parts of Europe ahead of Russia), and there’s no such thing as ‘plasma stealth’ outside Internet forums. While plasma state can cause RF not to effectively bounce back (hence the stealth), it is not a viable way of making aircraft stealthy as it exposes them to other forms of detection - hence it only existing in Internet fora.


8 posted on 04/15/2016 12:25:05 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Obama told them Russian Jets need a “safe space” also, and as long as their target is the imperialists who decimated and exploited all the native peoples of the world, what's not to like?
9 posted on 04/15/2016 3:06:27 AM PDT by Mark was here ("The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" - Obama.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Typhoons against the F-22...?

Any bets...?,p> I guess the Zoomies need some cheap targets for practice...

10 posted on 04/15/2016 3:22:25 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Will they fly the Mach Loop, and will they be allowed to get low enough for pictures?


11 posted on 04/15/2016 4:37:17 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: Victor

The F-22s will still not have the long-promised 40 year old tech of a heads up helmut, while the RAF FGR4 Typhoons do (like most modern fiighters). RAF Typhoons also have voice command.


12 posted on 04/15/2016 6:06:31 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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