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To: Dr. Sivana

> “ Walker and Cruz are more compatible as they are both small government conservatives, and Trump is not running as a small government candidate.”

Preaching ‘smaller government’ is pushing your buttons.

A lot of conservatives including me like to dream of smaller government. But then there’s reality.

I know the path BACK to smaller government and it’s not through Washington DC. That place has built too much legislative and constitutional structure in the past 100 years to wave a wand at over 4, 8 , 12 years and Presto! we lave smaller limited government.

In other words, your and my dream for smaller government is largely a fantasy. It will take a generation or more of believing Americans to get back to the small government model of the 19th century.

Pragmaticism is needed. Pragmaticism is what Trump is all about. Walker cut union siphoning off of state goverment but he hasn’t cut spending. As Trump has said, he has a $2 billion shortfall and he will have to borrow to meet the budget. His fight with the unions and the GAB made him a folk here or rockstar in Wisconsin. But as I said he’s no hero, he’s a damsel in distress that brings out chivalrous responses among voters who want to be seen as heroes to their damsel.

Cruz? All talk, no action. He has never cut any spending anywhere and he makes enemies where he doesn’t need to. Cruz will not be president and if we dream he would be, then we’d have a tough time dreaming he could ever get anything done.

Ronald Reagan couldn’t get limited or smaller government in 8 years. Cruz is no Reagan, not even close.

Exactly what is ‘smaller’ government.?

I could go rattle off things like abolish the IRS, abolish the EPA, Abolish the Departments of Education and Energy, defund PP and so on.

Well that’s all well and good but then there’s reality. One needs to have Congress behind it and that’s where the fight is, that’s where the negotiating and horse trading come in. And that’s where Trump is the master.

But you like to vote for the ‘rallying cry’, the things that push your buttons. When you become aware of that, you will be the wiser.

I will vote for the outsider that actually has the skills to make things better and not the one that thinks they can fool me with their words and rallying cries.


183 posted on 04/14/2016 8:10:20 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage
Pragmatism is needed. Pragmaticism is what Trump is all about. Walker cut union siphoning off of state goverment but he hasn’t cut spending. As Trump has said, he has a $2 billion shortfall and he will have to borrow to meet the budget. His fight with the unions and the GAB made him a folk here or rockstar in Wisconsin.

Repeating Trump's lie. There is NOT a $2 billion shortfall in Wisconsin.. Wisconsin is running at a small surplus. No matter how many times Trump and you mimicking shrieking Trumpanzees repeat this lie from Democrat talking points WILL NOT make it true.

Walker inherited a huge debt and deficit from his Democrat predecessor. Walker fixed both and he did so while lowering taxes, balancing the state budget AND defeating the unions and a corrupt state election ethics agency (GAB).

You are partially right about DC not being the place to achieve smaller government. But a so-called Trump "pragmatism" and the authoritarian national approach he truly intends will actually make the federal government even LARGER.

What is needed is a devolution of power back to the states, back to counties, cities and smaller units of government. The more localized a decision is produced, the more accountable that decision, government or individual politician is to individual voters and taxpayers. That is the conservative solution and the one espoused by Ted Cruz - the only conservative in the race.

185 posted on 04/14/2016 8:36:00 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: Hostage
Preaching ‘smaller government’ is pushing your buttons.

Pushing greater everything is also a way to push buttons. Reagan learned in 1976 that preaching the $90 billion budget cut (a lot of money in those days) was good enough to scare the old folks in Florida in costing Reagan the state and probably the nomination (Florida was third primary in those days, Iowa was an asterisk, and it went NH, Mass. Fl).

He learned his political lesson and decided to emphasize cutting taxes, and leaving the budget cutting promises to welfare queen anecdotes and the principled stance of the dangers of big government as a general proposition, avoiding much in specifics, especially with a hostile Dem-controlled House.

In Reagan's case, we knew his moral, political and philosophical framework lying underneath all of this. Cruz' is similar and has been for a long, long time, including during his time working for the Bush folks. Those who parents fled Cuba are inclined to appreciate the true gift of Freedom, and to see the dangers of bigger government.

State government in Wisconsin did shrink. I lived there. You didn't. I SAW the stuff government stopped doing. I KNOW property taxes went down, even thopugh we rented our house. I saw first hand cuts made as I contracted to the State of Wiconsin. I saw Scott Walker return the prescription for the poison pill known as the Milwaukee to Madison bullet train.

Frankly, it is hard to have an honest discussion when Trump can do NO wrong, and any of his enemies can do no right.

To call Walker a "Damsel in Distress" is the fantasy.
188 posted on 04/14/2016 9:48:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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