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Clinton vs. The Republicans: 2016 Electoral Maps
270 to win ^ | April 7, 2016 | 270 to win

Posted on 04/10/2016 5:50:45 PM PDT by lonestar67

This table will track how each of the remaining prospective Republican nominees is faring against Hillary Clinton based on 2016 polls. Click on the match-up to view the corresponding 2016 electoral map. From there, you can link to all the 2016 polls or view an interactive version of each map that allocates the unpolled states based on results from the 2012 election. Those projections are also shown in the table below, in the Polled + 2012 c

(Excerpt) Read more at 270towin.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; cruz; kasich; trump
Cruz continues to dominate as a prospective challenger to Clinton. Not even Kasich does as well as Cruz. This is electoral projection data based on state polls.
1 posted on 04/10/2016 5:50:45 PM PDT by lonestar67
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2 posted on 04/10/2016 5:52:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: lonestar67

From your link:
“... This far out, polling in most states is limited or outdated
and may not hold much predictive value ...”


3 posted on 04/10/2016 5:55:26 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: lonestar67

All Cruz is doing, is continuing to reveal himself to true Conservatives.

The guy has destroyed himself to many of us.

This Colorado fiasco was the last straw.

How any of you can still back this GOPe plant is beyond me.


4 posted on 04/10/2016 6:03:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh boohoo.....


5 posted on 04/10/2016 6:28:48 PM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: mrpotatohead

Laugh, make fun of my comments, but that will not make them untrue.

Neither of us will have a last laugh on this one.


6 posted on 04/10/2016 6:42:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne

What the heck happened in Colorado? How can they get away with taking the voters out of the picture? Is there any remedy within the party rules?


7 posted on 04/10/2016 7:42:44 PM PDT by MHT (,`)
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To: MHT

The party leadership was thrilled.

Good luck.

Once a state determination has been made, I think it’s cast in granite.


8 posted on 04/10/2016 7:47:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s not hard when he is such a consistent conservative


9 posted on 04/10/2016 8:37:40 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

Seldom have I seen folks more lost than you folks.


10 posted on 04/10/2016 8:38:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Trump argues:

Planned parenthood is a good organization

Eminent domain is good policy

He has never needed Gods forgiveness

Cruz is the worst liar he has ever met (but has met and adored bill and Hillary Clinton not )

Security, health care and education are primary roles of the federal government

Cruz consistently argued and acts for conservative principles such as:

Religious liberty

Strong military

Gun rights

Fiscal limits

Free trade

Abolishing the IRS

Combating illegal immigration

I see little evidence that substantial arguments matter to trump supporters

Ted is a liar— end of story.


11 posted on 04/10/2016 8:49:01 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67
Trump argues:

Planned parenthood is a good organization

Did Trump denounce Planned Parenthood for abortion and the eugenic revealations last year?  Yes.

Did Trump state that he would defund the abortion end of Planned Parenthood.?  Yes.

Did he state that Planned Parenthood provided good services for women other than abortion?  Yes

So you are partially correct, and just flat leaving out anything favorable to Trump.

As for the services Planned Parenthood provides other than abortion services, in some places, it is the only provider of women's services for miles and miles.  Some rural areas don't have resources.  In some of those types of localities Planned Parenthood does provide other services that are important to women.

I didn't know that before, so it was news to me as well.  In some areas where all they do is provide abortion services, they may have to shut down.  In other areas, such as rural areas, they may continue getting funding that can help local women.

I don't have a problem with that.  

I do think those participating in the eugencs activities of last year should go to prison for a very long time.


Eminent domain is good policy

Eminent domain is used all the time.  It is used for public works.  It is used by private companies.  In some instances I agree with it.  In others I don't.  Trump is by no means a robber baron that is only thinking of himself in these instances.  He has thousands of potential jobs on the line and he advocates for his and his employees, the community's, and the local government's best interests.  It's a more complex issue than just tossing out name calling because he doesn't respect other people's property rights.  As in many othe rinstances in life, there are competing intersts, with neither side being all bad.

He has never needed Gods forgiveness

By the accounts of people who work for Trump, have worked for Trump, or have known the man very well, he is a good man.  His past wives speak well of him.  His family is exemplary.  His private donations are varried and reveal a good person at heart.  He seems to care for the common man.

Has he done some things I don't care for?  Yes.  There are parts of his life I don't care for at all.  On the other hand over 22,500 homes in the New York region have their mortages or rents paid for with money earned at Trump enterprises.

He is a good man, and many people rely on him to support their families.  I do not think he is an evil man, and I'll let God sort this out.  God will sort out all sorts of people including me.  I've got enough to worry about without worrying about Trump.  He is fine with me.

I suspect on a number of levels, God is just fine with Trump too.


Cruz is the worst liar he has ever met (but has met and adored bill and Hillary Clinton not )

Trump was an business exectuive.  He was not on a day to day basis studying politics.  The Clintons were not lying about him non stop.  Ted has been.

Security, health care and education are primary roles of the federal government

Security, the military, is one of the few things the federal government is tasked with.  It has not been doing it's duty their.  It's time to turn that around, and Trump has a plan to do so.

In the sense that the federal government should create an atmosphere where those things can flourish, I'll buy in there.  As for education, Trump has talked of doing away with the Department of Educaiton and Common Core.  That means that his comments were not focused on the govenrment doing things, but securing the right environment and getting out of the way.  With regard to medicine he has talked of doing away with Obamacare and turning insurance companies loose so they can compete across the nation.  He envisions lowered costs due to competition, and a proliferation of policies for the same reason.  Trump recognizes the need for the government to downsize.  This is part of the way he plans to cut costs and reduce the national debt..


Cruz consistently argued and acts for conservative principles such as:  (not buying this / Ted has come down on the wrong side of too many issues for this to be true, and it goes all the way back to 1999 working for presidential hopeful Bush)

Religious liberty

Gag me with a pitchfork.  Who are you kidding?  This presupposes Trump will take away or allow to be taken away religious liberty.  Nonsense, and yet Ted does this sort of thing over and over and over, as if Trump would do something bad on a subject.  That is lying.

Strong military

Trump promises a revitalized military, and Trump knows how to pay for it.  Ted?  LOL  Please name three things that Ted has done that qualigy him as a man that has any grasp of fiscal policy, debt reduction, coming in under budget, producing and completing a project on time.  Ted is too light in the loafers to make such a promise.  He's simply not qualifid to do so.

Gun rights

Trump has an excellent policy on gun rights and those who have bothered to look at it, have said so unanimously.

Fiscal limits

Trump talks about fiscal limites, but he takes it one step further.  He says he will pay down the debt in under eight years.  Ted has not the slightest concept of large services fical policy.  He doesn't know the tricks of the financial trade.  Trump does.  Ted is not qualified to make any claim whatsoever on this subject..

Free trade

Yep, you're right.  Ted hasn't got a clue what fair vs free trade are.  And so he advocates for free trade.  When the TPP was first being discussed, Ted said he was against it.  Then he co-wrote an article with Paul Ryan for the Wall Street Journal supporting TPA.  Ted went on radio and television talking up TPA.  Then at the last minute, he didn't vote for it.  McCain used to pull that trick all the time.  He would push the other side's policy, and then not vote for it, just to keep his record clean.  It an underhnded tactic, and it's rotten.

Once again, this is a topic where Ted is out of his depth.


Abolishing the IRS

Trump's tax plan is on the record, and it is solid.  Ted has a gigantic mouth, but he has not clue about fiscal matters.  His biggest financial task in his life so far, has been to balance his own checkbook.

I could go to a Fortune 500 company and apply for a job and state I could do all sorts of things.  They'd laugh at me if I had no more credentials than Ted Cruz has to be president.


Combating illegal immigration

Handing out Teddy Bears and Soccer balls.  Going back to 1999 in his discussions with Bush, he has been in over his head on this issue.  His sudden conversion doesn't sell.  Any guy haning out goodies on the border to the poor illegal immigrants has already told me more than I need to know.  Sympathy is not job one on that issue.  Ted didn't know that.

I see little evidence that substantial arguments matter to trump supporters

No, you simply don't pay attention to substantial arguments.  They all over the forum.  The problem, which you can't grasp, is that you folks have been making the same idiotic arguments for ten months now.  We have countered them every step of the way, and are now not interested in countering them more for you.  So instead people just call you ignorant for not knowing any of this yet.

Ted is a liar— end of story.

Couldn't agree more.

12 posted on 04/10/2016 10:02:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Ted, why are you taking one for the RNC/GOPe team, and not ours? Not that we don't know.)
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To: lonestar67

Trump, Cruz, Kasich or any GOPe establishmebt clown will all get their asses handed to them in November. This is a shit lot of of candidates we have. Hillary is terrible candidate too, but in cases like this people always go with the devil they know


13 posted on 04/10/2016 10:16:37 PM PDT by Angels27
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To: lonestar67

Every poll showing Hillary winning an election where shes not cheating is total garbage. This is Hillary we we are talking about.


14 posted on 04/10/2016 10:18:49 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: lonestar67

You mean consistent Globalist. a globalist is not a conservative.


15 posted on 04/10/2016 10:20:21 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The obvious answer to all these shenanigans is to have one national primary, all on the same day, winner take all. No caucuses to manipulate, no second ballot defections, no national conventions. Just We the people decide.


16 posted on 04/11/2016 2:54:30 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: DoughtyOne

Excellent post.


17 posted on 04/11/2016 5:57:36 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: DoughtyOne

Great post.


18 posted on 04/11/2016 7:57:47 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Mechanicos

Does Jose Medellin think Cruz is a globalist?


19 posted on 04/11/2016 8:01:20 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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