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The debate about human-caused climate change is heating up, just like the Earth
The Oregonian ^ | April 6, 2016 | By Douglas Perry

Posted on 04/06/2016 12:49:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

On Tuesday I published a short post about the key arguments of climate-change skeptics while also pointing out that some 98 percent of published scientists in the field believe human-caused climate change is indeed happening and must be addressed.

For years the two sides have been talking - or yelling - past one another, which benefits none of us. As expected, the post brought forth a wave of comments from readers. Many lambasted me for providing a forum for the "lunatics" who deny human-caused climate change. Climate skeptics, on the other hand, chastised me for only presenting their more simplistic arguments.

While the skeptics haven't convinced me, their counter-arguments have provided me with some valuable food for thought. All of which leads back to my original reason for writing about this subject: that we'd all be better off if we could stop talking past one another.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ccredistribution; ccsocialism; climatechangefraud; climategate; green; hoax; socialism
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"Climate science" is an ideology, not science.
1 posted on 04/06/2016 12:49:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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For cryin' out loud....its going to be 26 degrees here in SW Pennsylvania this weekend!
2 posted on 04/06/2016 12:52:07 PM PDT by 4yearlurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My seat just got some “human caused climate change”.


3 posted on 04/06/2016 12:52:34 PM PDT by albie
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To: 4yearlurker

Feels like January 6 in Boston today than April 6.


4 posted on 04/06/2016 12:53:56 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1RhI53/:16eH_cGH0:6usmOr@k/www.math.psu.edu/tseng/H2Ojoke.html

H2O: Dangerous Chemical!
A student at Eagle Rock Junior High won first prize at the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair, April 26. He was attempting to show how conditioned we have become to alarmists practicing junk science and spreading fear of everything in our environment. In his project he urged people to sign a petition demanding strict control or total elimination of the chemical “dihydrogen monoxide.”

And for plenty of good reasons, since:

1.it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting
2.it is a major component in acid rain
3.it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state
4.accidental inhalation can kill you
5.it contributes to erosion
6.it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes
7.it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients

He asked 50 people if they supported a ban of the chemical.
•Forty-three (43) said yes,
•six (6) were undecided,
•and only one (1) knew that the chemical was water.

The title of his prize winning project was, “How Gullible Are We?”

He feels the conclusion is obvious.


5 posted on 04/06/2016 12:56:02 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The 98% claim is bullcrap. They come to that number by counting high school science teachers and liberal activists as “climate scientists”. The real truth is that there are tens of thousands of scientists who disagree with the man-caused warming religion.


6 posted on 04/06/2016 12:56:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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human-caused climate change is indeed happening

TRUE.

The only argument we should be having is whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. Personally, I like it warmer. So does almost everything we depend on for a food supply.

7 posted on 04/06/2016 12:57:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They always say the 98% or so scientists in the field, when there were only a handful of them and the rest were scientists outside the domain signing this Bs report.


8 posted on 04/06/2016 12:57:27 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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So the output of the sun is immeasurable next to human output. The sun had been something like 35% hotter. Joe Bastardy shows graphs of the total knowledge of earth temperatures and if forms a waveform that looks like it is ready to start a downward trend and may make nest couple years colder than normal. I am a denier buy no one has any proof that humans have any effect on temperature?


9 posted on 04/06/2016 12:58:05 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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> “While the skeptics haven’t convinced me, their counter-arguments have provided me with some valuable food for thought. All of which leads back to my original reason for writing about this subject: that we’d all be better off if we could stop talking past one another.”

The irony is this puke reporter would have nothing to write about if the ‘skeptics’ were not speaking up about the climate hoax.

Douglas Perry, another member of the scumbag media, who is not a scientist, who chastises people for being upset with liars that want to use a false scientific ideology to control industries, and idiotically would have no role at all if it were not for the provocateurs behind a climate hoax.


10 posted on 04/06/2016 12:58:49 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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P.S. Everything we do to cause climate change can be eradicated in a few seconds by clouds.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 12:59:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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human-caused climate change is indeed happening

FALSE

Humans aren't causing the climate to change. The climate changed before there were humans.

12 posted on 04/06/2016 1:01:53 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, but you have to realize 96% of the US population is public “schooled”. The vast majority of that 96% are dumber than a sack of hammers.


13 posted on 04/06/2016 1:03:05 PM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“pointing out that some 98 percent of published scientists in the field believe human-caused climate change is indeed happening”

But... No, they don’t.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 1:08:30 PM PDT by servo1969
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My questions to those who support AGW, and I would truly like them answered unless they are ‘beliefs’ like #1.
1. So there is 100% zero doubt in your mind the supposed scientists could be wrong? Just like the earth is round and it orbits the sun, AGW is 100% rock solid truth, zero room for error??
2. Can you point me to the scientists, the documents and their research? Where is it?
3. Scientists also claim the earth is 4 billion years old, how far back can we accurately predict what happened then versus now?
4. Can you give examples of what is happening to the planet, its resources and tie that directly to AGW? Please show cause and effect, not simple correlation.

Feel free to add cuz my kids are now convinced it’s happening. Thanks public education.


15 posted on 04/06/2016 1:12:56 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

CLIMATE CHANGE
a religion for
LIBTARDS
ATHEISTS
RETARDS
POLITICIANS
IDIOTS
....
if its so much “science”
why do they use faked numbers
selective input
selective readings
lies
conspiracies
ostracize scientists who disagree
have spent hundreds of billions and produced NOTHING concrete...
...
the SUN controls the climate
THROUGH ITS EFFECT ON OCEAN TEMPS AND CURRENTS..
...
no science is going to control the SUN...

the climate clowns are simply out to redistribute welath and skim fortunes for themselves and cronies....
...
if bozo obama says it’s settled science.....
you know the opposite is true...


16 posted on 04/06/2016 1:16:41 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Hostage; Oldeconomybuyer; Blood of Tyrants; UCANSEE2

And the Establishment Ryan & McConnell are silent as usual. There must be money in it for the GOPe somehow. Both men would gladly wholesale their grandmother for lunch money.


17 posted on 04/06/2016 1:35:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m curious about what else we’re just supposed to blindly believe because science says its so?

Are there other examples similar to AGW?

Scientists told people the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth too.


18 posted on 04/06/2016 1:37:49 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Clearly Ohio Republicans agree completely.


19 posted on 04/06/2016 1:37:59 PM PDT by The Toll
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Global Warming Skeptics Question Authority

Princeton Professor Denies Global Warming Theory

German scientists reject man-made global warming

Real Scientist Uncover Serious Flaw In Global Warming Data

Physicist Howard Hayden's one-letter disproof of global warming claims [pre-Climategate]

'Consensus' On Man-Made Global Warming Collapses in 2008

Perth electrical engineer's discovery will change climate change debate October 04, 2015

Top Physicist Freeman Dyson: Obama 'Took the Wrong Side' on Climate Change October 14, 2015

Global Warming Petition Project Scientists who reject AGW
31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit 'Irrational' * 'Based On Nonsense' * 'Leading us down a false path' November 19, 2015

20 posted on 04/06/2016 1:40:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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