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I am at a loss for words acceptable in polite company.
1 posted on 04/05/2016 7:12:53 PM PDT by kitchen
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To: kitchen

The VA doesn’t want to be held accountable for their (in)actions....


2 posted on 04/05/2016 7:15:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: kitchen

Of course, ordered by the Democrats. HRH George III didn’t fare so well when he tried to seize the colonists’ firearms at Lexington, and paid the price on the road back to Concord.


3 posted on 04/05/2016 7:17:06 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: kitchen; All
The answer is simple and clear.

These vets have 100% disability for mental disorders and have been adjudged by multiple doctors as incapable of receiving their own check and administering their own affairs.

Do you want them to have guns?

4 posted on 04/05/2016 7:17:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: kitchen

If a veteran admits to any kind of PTSD in private with his/her VA doctor they will lose their 2nd amendment rights.

Obama in action.

Vets will learn.


5 posted on 04/05/2016 7:18:31 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: kitchen

Dems hate vets and guns.


7 posted on 04/05/2016 7:22:30 PM PDT by umgud
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To: kitchen

Dems hate vets and guns.


8 posted on 04/05/2016 7:22:30 PM PDT by umgud
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To: kitchen

I just verbalized it for you.
One day I will have to explain it to the neighbors.


9 posted on 04/05/2016 7:23:47 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: kitchen; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Vets ping.


10 posted on 04/05/2016 7:25:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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“I am at a loss for words acceptable in polite company. “

Me too! We’re retired, believe in the 2A, and so now, we have to take a hard look at every interaction we have that has the prospect of connecting us in any way to our government. That includes SSA, Medicare, our doctors and other healthcare functionaries and law enforcement, all of whom have a vested interest in depriving both of us of our 2A rights. The government knows that us retired folks are old enough and smart enough to realize they do not wish us well!


11 posted on 04/05/2016 7:25:47 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: kitchen

Is this happening Nation wide
OR lefty States?


15 posted on 04/05/2016 7:38:48 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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In an effort to fix the issue, Grassley, along with Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee Chairman Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., penned a letter to VA Secretary Robert McDonald last week and another to the subcommittee over the agency’s funding, questioning the practice.

Well, the GOP sent another strongly-worded letter, so there's that.

20 posted on 04/05/2016 7:55:54 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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To: kitchen

Give em hell+ when I go to the VA clinic for medical purposes I am always happy, never had a bad day, ever. I know the games the leftards play.


22 posted on 04/05/2016 7:57:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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This is an issue I deal with daily with my gun trust clients. If you are on SSDI, Medicaid, VA Aid and Attendance or other Federal or State needs based benefit and if a Representative Payee is appointed to receive your benefits, VA will coordinate with FBI and ATF and make a determination that you are a prohibited person under 18 USC 922(g)(4) ... A person " ...who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution;"

Funny how there is no real adjudication or even due process of any kind. We create a trust that allows the owner to withdraw as trustee and appoint a successor to take control of the trust property (I.e. Guns) ifor the benefit of the trustmaker. This will prevent clients with important family collections to avoid guns being deemed " contraband" by ATF which would make it subject to confiscation.

Sorry about the rant but this stuff is pissing me off!

24 posted on 04/05/2016 8:19:11 PM PDT by shawnlaw
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To: kitchen

So strip the VA of all funding, Chuck. You have the power.
L


25 posted on 04/05/2016 8:20:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Just another DOG AND PONY SHOW!

QUIT LYING, You Have ALL the Necessary Tools and Authority to get to the Bottom of ANYTHING you so Desire.

These SENATORS and CONGRESSMEN have the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to get All the Answers they wish and they can act on those answers as they wish. Instead they JUST WHINE AND BITCH, while DOING NOTHING!:

Congress has ALL the power in washington, the executive and judicial branch operate according to the whims of CONGRESS!

Congress can Remove the President
Congress can remove the head of every executive agency Congress can remove ALL of their employees
Congress can Abolish every agency they so choose
Congress can remove EVERY JUDGE IN AMERICA, including every supreme court justice.
Congress can abolish every federal court except the supreme Court
Congress can decide which cases the Judicial Branch can hear and decide
CONGRESS can Imprison ANYONE they want for any reason they so desire for as long as they wish.
Congress can declare WAR

No other governing body has even 10% of the power CONGRESS has!!

CONGRESS IS ALLOWING ALL OF IT!!!

Congress has the authority to arrest and imprison those found in Contempt. The power extends throughout the United States and is an inherent power (does not depend upon legislated act)

If found in Contempt the person can be arrested under a warrant of the Speaker of the House of Representatives or President of the Senate, by the respective Sergeant at Arms.

Statutory criminal contempt is an alternative to inherent contempt.

Under the inherent contempt power Congress may imprison a person for a specific period of time or an indefinite period of time, except a person imprisoned by the House of Representatives may not be imprisoned beyond adjournment of a session of Congress.

Imprisonment may be coercive or punitive.

Some references

[1] Joseph Story’s Commentaries on the Constitution, Volume 2, § 842 http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_5s21.html

[2] Anderson v. Dunn - 19 U.S. 204 - “And, as to the distance to which the process might reach, it is very clear that there exists no reason for confining its operation to the limits of the District of Columbia; after passing those limits, we know no bounds that can be prescribed to its range but those of the United States.” http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/19/204/case.html

[3] Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/125/case.html 73rd Cong., 78 Cong. Rec. 2410 (1934) https://archive.org/details/congressionalrec78aunit

[4] McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 - Under a warrant issued by the President of the Senate the Deputy to the Senate Sergeant at Arms arrested at Cincinnati, Ohio, Mally S. Daugherty, who had been twice subpoenaed by the Senate and twice failed to appear. http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/273/135/case.html

[5] Rules of the House of Representatives, Rule IV Duties of the Sergeant at Arms - [] execute the commands of the House, and all processes issued by authority thereof, directed to him by the Speaker. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/HMAN-105/pdf/HMAN-105-pg348.pdf

[6] An analysis of Congressional inquiry, subpoena, and enforcement http://www.constitutionproject.org/documents/when-congress-comes-calling-a-primer-on-the-principles-practices-and-pragmatics-of-legislative-inquiry/


26 posted on 04/05/2016 8:37:28 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: kitchen

it is essential for O to disarm Americans if the IslamoNazi invasion forces O’s bringing in... are to have the easiest-possible path to ultimate victory in conquering USA

the IslamoNazis are no different than the original Nazis...
they want to disarm the citizenry to render our self-defense impossible

there is truly very little new under the sun

history repeats itself, especially when the masses of people are not paying attention


34 posted on 04/05/2016 10:38:30 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 -- 43 BCE))
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“Obama wants answers why VA allowed 19 million vets to keep gun rights”


35 posted on 04/05/2016 10:54:04 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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A similar standard has been proposed by the Social Security Administration to strip gun rights from as many as 75,000 beneficiaries per year according to figures released by the White House in January.

It takes a surprisingly small number of people to take over a country... Just put a few commie at the top...

45 posted on 04/06/2016 8:52:42 AM PDT by GOPJ ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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A similar standard has been proposed by the Social Security Administration to strip gun rights from as many as 75,000 beneficiaries per year according to figures released by the White House in January.

It takes a surprisingly small number of people to take over a country... Just put a few commie at the top...

46 posted on 04/06/2016 8:53:00 AM PDT by GOPJ ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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