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To: Kaslin

The fallacy in this piece is that morality requires religion.


3 posted on 04/05/2016 7:54:33 AM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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To: CapitalistCrusader

“The fallacy in this piece is that morality requires religion.”

God, not religion.

Leftism is a religion.


11 posted on 04/05/2016 8:40:43 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CapitalistCrusader

A truth is morals are God-made, external-based and unchangeable. Ethics, on the other hand are man-made, internal based and changing.

Morals are religious teachings, Ethics are societal teachings. Need only look as far as professional ethics rules to see they have little relation to moral teachings.


23 posted on 04/05/2016 8:53:28 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: CapitalistCrusader

True morality requires some type of outside direction. You can have a “morality” without religion or God, but it will be based on how you feel or think something should be.

A true morality has to be based on something outside of itself, or people will do as the Bible said they always do, whatever seems right to them. And they will claim their actions are moral.

And if you really think about it, you are angry at me because your feelings are telling you to be mad, but you know that you want everybody else to have the same moral stance as you have. If everybody would just act like you, everything would be perfect.


29 posted on 04/05/2016 9:05:48 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: CapitalistCrusader

Not religion, all one need do is pick a religion to justify ones action.

Morality, true morality is pinned to God. If not one can logically conclude any action is moral by picking the appropriate moral framework.

For example, a leftist can point to global warming and justify the purging of everyone who disagrees. The fate of the whole world is more important than the lives of individual people. If one chooses to believe the life of one animal is no different that that another (bovine vs. homo sapiens) it is moral to limit the dietary choices of omnivores, at the point of a gun if need be. Or that that an unborn child is not a person. Or greater good vs. lesser good or.........

We currently live in the safe harbor of a society that still has ties to a morality based on a belief in God. Most atheists and agnostics have morality based on assumptions that are fundamentally based on an assumed spirituality or specialness of the human being.


30 posted on 04/05/2016 9:06:18 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: CapitalistCrusader

“The fallacy in this piece is that morality requires religion.”

Without true revealed religion, you can call any system of behavior “moral”. In that sense, one can have morality without religion. However, without God, there is no way to distinguish one system of morality from another. All are equal. In that case, and inevitably, the most moral person will always turn out to be the strongman who imposes his will on everyone else.


33 posted on 04/05/2016 9:12:42 AM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: CapitalistCrusader

Show me one culture or country where morality does not rest on religion.


37 posted on 04/05/2016 9:19:58 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: CapitalistCrusader
The fallacy in this piece is that morality requires religion.

Morality has to come from somewhere. You can't trust it to "majority rule." Those who pride themselves on being moral exist within a culture that has already determined what is moral and what is not. The fact that Islamic morality differs by 180 degrees from JudeoChristian morality on many vital points indicates that morality is not relative. It is learned, and is taught and modeled. It came from somewhere; and one of these systems logically has to be closer to accurate alignment with Nature than the other.

In the Western canon, morality came not from the point of a sword, as in Islam, but rather from the supernatural actions of a loving and communicative God. Those who witnessed the early miracles also were instructed to bring up their children and maintain their families and communities within the moral law of the God of Abraham. Many who still recognize this God still recognize new miracles in contemporary life.

At some point, a person wishing to have deep moral integrity must recognize the coherent Source Code for his/her morality and drive corruption out of his or her self-righteous, intellect-based morality, just as he or she would clean up his/her laptop so it can operate effectively, or at all. After all, most people did not design, build and develop his laptop — those who came before have brought forward a rich and complex stream of knowledge, based on principles of conductance and communication present in nature.

And Who designed Nature?

Rational people who recognize the exquisite detail of computers that automatically reject a data transmission if even one dot is out of place can also accept the probability that there is a master programmer for the orderly operation of the planetary universe, a SysOp who is massively capable of having built an organic intelligence technology into our DNA that records and operates everything; and that He can examine, augment, delete or change areas of this detailed code for His reasons, or at His pleasure.

62 posted on 04/05/2016 10:00:24 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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