Apple v. FBI, what's really at stake.
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Posted on 04/03/2016 6:53:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Just say no to govtOS..
” to assist them in breaking their own encryption, the FBI must first demonstrate that the requested assistance is not “unduly burdensome”.”
What a piece of Apple propaganda!
1. The order specifically referred to ‘non-encryption barriers’! It did NOT request Apple to break the encryption.
2. No undue burden. The government was required to reimburse Apple for their work.
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Ok, I can't pass that up. Encryption cannot be broken. If AES256 were broken all hell would break loose.
Shouldn’t your post have been directed to Swordmaker?
All that nonsense to try to hide the FACT that the FBI did in a week what Apple and their paid social media trolls like you claimed was “impossible”.
“Undue burden”?? All that fighting by Apple to protect muslim terrorists and it took the FBI mere days to read that iPhone, and they aren’t even the experts at the iPhone like Apple is. Apple calls that extreme little effort “undue burden”? Apple spent thousands of times more effort to not help the FBI than it took the FBI to do the job.
Apple, the most liberal anti-American company on the planet. It’s been their reputation since the 1980’s and they continue to earn the reputation.
The order to break “non-encryption” barriers is necessary since the encryption cannot be broken.
Probably because they destroyed the chip that stores the hash and UID. The back door that the FBI wanted Apple to build did not take that short cut.
There is no way I would buy a product that the government could or would have access to. If I’m paying for encryption, I’m paying for security, not security with government access. Say what you want about Apple, they were right.
The FBI botched this case from the beginning and want Apple to change intellectual property AND assume all the risk, to bail them out..
“There is no way I would buy a product that the government could or would have access to.”
Then there isn’t a device you should ever buy. There isn’t a civilian available encryption that isn’t completely and immediately decrypted by the fed. Not a one.
If that is so, why did the FBI persist? If the govt had the ability to get into the phone, why didn’t they just do it? Am I missing something?
Yes, you are missing something. They wanted Apple to install a continuous backdoor. I sided with Apple on that point. That, and this wasn’t about decryption at all. The Internet has a way of letting people think they know what’s going on and that they know all about it. Fact is, this was never about decryption.
P.S. The FBI and the NSA do not have a productive relationship, so the FBI doesn’t have access to anything and everything cryptographically related.
So what was the point? My issues was, and continues to be, the government wanting a private entity to change intellectual property to suit government needs. I’m not calling you out, maybe I don’t understand something..
I agree with you there, I’m sure there is very little collusion between the two..
There are many, specified by NIST, approved by DHS and required by various federal agencies. Some do the passcode in RAM and are generally untrustworthy, e.g. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/fips_140-2_leve.html But others do the passcode on board 
and are uncrackable.
“Just because Apple is in the business of building encryption software does not mean Apple is in the business of tearing down their encryption software any more than Boeing is in the business of building planes that are specially designed to crash.”
This.
We do not demand safe manufacturers to break into their own safes. The whole point is to make something secure, not something which appears secure but is easily breached with some arcane knowledge. To compel them to is to destroy their whole purpose for existing.
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