Posted on 04/03/2016 3:15:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
I can’t imagine what they might ‘win’ would balance what they would surely lose.
Sorry pal, but sCruz is Constitutionally ineligible to hold the Office of President. He knows it and is proceeding anyway. WHY????
Worse is that Hillary and the Dems know it, and are prepared to have him thrown out if his election ever makes it to Congressional Certification of the Election results. I won’t be a party to that.
Either you don’t know,or don’t care, that sCruz is ineligible.
Ask yourself one question....Do you think the Founders, when they wrote the requirement of NBC for President, had a Canadian born son of a Cuban in mind as being eligible?
I don’t, but then I’m a Constitutional Conservative......
Simple alarmism. Because:
1. The 168 delegates referred to are the 3 delegates per state/territory allocated to RNC committeemen/women. RNC members, yes, but with loyalties extending to their local roots.
2. They amount to a mere 6.8% of the total delegation. The group isn't large enough to exert any meaningful leverage.
3. That said, Trump and Cruz together will control 75-80% o the total delegation -- more than enough to crush any initiative that might be RNC-instigated.
4. Which illustrates a controlling truth of this convention: The GOP-e has already lost...big! They'll not be able to impose anything on Trump (or Cruz) that Trump (or Cruz) don't want.
“Even if Trump wins over 1237, they will likely change the rules and bring in their own. My bets on Romney/Ryan since they already filed the paperwork in February.”
I second that.
If that doesn't work, I hit the SPAM button. That seems to be pretty effective.
Or he is hope’n they will be enough to put someone over the top and that someone is willing to have him as VP.
I love how so many people keep expressing puzzlement as to why Cruz is embracing all his recent GOPe endorsements. “What’s wrong with him?”, they keep asking. “Doesn’t he realize he’s being used?”
For those Cruz supporters who are seriously asking themselves that question, let me explain it to you one more time. You’re the ones who are being used.
Cruz IS GOPe. Always has been, always will be.
“At this point, the race is down to Cruz or the establishment. Trump’s not even been in the race. Cruz may lose, but at least SOMEBODY understands that the real race and is working to win it.”
Your viewpoint seems to be that the people’s votes are of scant importance, and that the real race concerns how the delegates (i.e., party insiders) vote.
Do I have that about right?
Then tell me why the HELL we’re engaging in this dog and pony show of a primary election to begin with?
I thought we had a representative form of government. If it’s simply a totalitarian form of government, controlled by a select few party apparatchiks, then come right out and say it, so we know what we’re dealing with.
“Trump cannot register under any other party except in four states.”
Show me in the Constitution where it says a candidate for the presidency must register under any party banner.
I’m their last hope you know, but I delete them anyway.
You can argue the party ‘rules’ til you’re blue in the face, but if a plurality of voters feel they’ve been disenfranchised by the system, they’re going to revolt against the party in the general election.
Tread carefully, my friend.
You’re such a meany. I’m gonna tell Rinsed Prius, and Carl Rovmaniac on you.
The majority of the Party isn’t going to be disenfranchised so that a plurality bent on destroying the Party can prevail.
The establishment figures the revolt that you’re threatening is coming anyway.
If a crack up is coming anyway, then by damn Trump can go to hell.
In fact, this makes for the perfect strategy for the establishment to put Cruz up instead. Trump gets booted, Cruz loses the election because of the revolt, and the establishment gets to say, “told you so.”
That was the plan via Trojan delegates but RNC is starting to replace both Cruz & Trump delegates with GOP establishment delegates.
Send Paul Ryan a post card saying NO TRUMP NO VOTE. Post card only - they will toss an envelope
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington DC 20515
phone: 202 225 3031
fax 202 225 3393
Send many until they get the message.
Here’s a warning:
This is a psy-ops strategy by the GOP-E. Demoralize and discourage Trump supporters, and bait the unstable among them into acts of politically motivated violence.
Roger Stone is an agent provocateur, who will be cast as Trump’s Ernst Rohm. The ultimate goal is to completely discredit the Trump campaign by making him appear to be the boogieman Leftists claim he is.
“The majority of the Party isn’t going to be disenfranchised so that a plurality bent on destroying the Party can prevail.”
Sounds like angry pretzel logic.
Here’s the thing. Something like 40 - 45% of Republican voters have chosen Trump. The other 55 - 60% are divided amongst the remaining two candidates, and candidates who’ve left the race.
The 50 - 60% are disunited. They haven’t coalesced or come to an agreement on which individual should be the nominee. It’s a fractured aggregate of people who are only united in their opposition to the Democrats.
Because that aggregate is composed of several pockets of smaller numbers who all agree on one candidate (Cruz, for example), they’re powerless to affect the eventual outcome of the contest. That can only be changed if those in the remaining primary states rally around one Not Trump candidate now.
Perhaps they will, but the available polling data for the remaining states says that Trump will handily take most of the votes.
At the end of the primary process, it will be clear to one and all that more voters have chosen Trump, than any other candidate. In every endeavor in life, that’s considered a clean win.
My point to you, is that any game that is structured in such a way that a clear win can be taken from the winner, then awarded to a loser or even a non-competitor, is illegitimate on its face, and will be seen that way by all those who backed the clear winner.
You can scream, “rules!”, all you want, but close to half of the voters won’t hear you. They’re going to tell you to put your rules where the sun don’t shine.
At that point, the Republican party and the country are finished. Madame President will see to that. You won’t have a country any longer, but at least you’ll still have your precious rules to cling to.
Secret delegate army is a bluff.
If, say, 200 secret delegates were needed to change rules to allow an Establishment candidate, that would be a possibility. But the number of secret delegates needed is more like 600 - 700. That ain’t happening except in the minds of ignorant bloggers.
They get their money where scum go to get money...other scum.
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