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Pastor Robert Jeffress Stands by Donald Trump's Comments on Abortion
NBCDFW.com ^ | Apr 1, 2016 | Julie Fine

Posted on 04/02/2016 12:12:05 PM PDT by FR_addict

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To: MaxFlint

God created the world and natural law. He populates the world with our cooperation.

No where does He tell us to or how to control the population. He DOES tell us to be married in order to have children. If people would restrict their having children to doing so within marriage there would be a tremendous decline in birth there

You begin to see the problem?


61 posted on 04/05/2016 9:14:19 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
No where does He tell us to or how to control the population. He DOES tell us to be married in order to have children. If people would restrict their having children to doing so within marriage there would be a tremendous decline in birth there

You asked if an average birthrate of ten children per family was bad. I explained why it's bad. It's simple math. Exponential growth can overwhelm any system.

There are methods other than birth control pills to keep birthrates down. Marrying later with strict monogamy (strong prohibitions on extramarital sex) for example. That European family pattern kept population growth in check, allowing Europe to avoid the poverty of Asia, where early and almost universal marriage kept population right up against the land's carrying capacity.

62 posted on 04/06/2016 8:34:19 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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No I didn’t.

When we were growing up we had an sberage of five kids per family in the catholic community.

But no where does the author of the creation of people give advice and guidance on number crunching, having sex with no intention of cooperating wihh creation or on preventing conception or birth

People have taken that on without consulting the one in charge.

not good


63 posted on 04/06/2016 10:48:34 AM PDT by stanne
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To: MaxFlint

That’s just a silly argument Europe has negative population growth. Have you been there? Have you lived there? Spoken the local language? They not only have no marriage, no church going and no regard for God they have disdain for these entities and for everyone involved in them

They are being completely over run while in denial. They have no will and no manner in which to stop the takeover of their church buildings, their progeny and their land by the Muslims.

That’s from birth control


64 posted on 04/06/2016 10:55:47 AM PDT by stanne
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That’s just a silly argument Europe has negative population growth.

It's all hypothetical, as I said. Right now the problem is too much birth control. I only intend to give a counterexample, one which has manifest itself in many places.

This isn't necessarily a defense of the birth control pill. Dangerously fast population growth can also be controlled by changes in family formation - later marriage for women being the most effective.

Remember, these methods were used in Europe when it was 100% Christian. That's why Europe suffered less starvation than Asia, which didn't limit family size as much.

65 posted on 04/06/2016 9:42:05 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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What is ‘just enough birth control’? There’d be guidelines from the creator in the bible. But there are not. So there’s nothing hypothetical. Just wrong


66 posted on 04/06/2016 10:23:49 PM PDT by stanne
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Read it again. You're missing my point. There are many ways to reduce average family size and they have always been used in civilized countries. Which is why there are civilized countries. Abstinence, delaying marriage, all have been used. This isn't a curse, it's a blessing.
67 posted on 04/06/2016 10:32:24 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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What civilized countries? The ones being overrun by Muslims?


68 posted on 04/06/2016 10:35:18 PM PDT by stanne
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Oh. You mean this civilized country, where we kill innocent unborn children by 1.5 million per year in abortion.

Yeah that’s civilized

That’s birth control, btw,


69 posted on 04/06/2016 10:51:30 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
On the upside we don't suffer from constant plague and famine.
70 posted on 04/07/2016 3:58:22 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

Countries who do reject the deprsvity of our donated birth control


71 posted on 04/07/2016 5:15:12 AM PDT by stanne
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http://www.teresatomeo.com/342-a-letter-to-melinda-gates-the-contraception-controversy-342.html


72 posted on 04/07/2016 5:23:52 AM PDT by stanne
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