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Deputies: Man offered shooting victim water and $400, but didn't call 911
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 3-19-16 | Gal Tziperman Lotan

Posted on 03/20/2016 3:16:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog

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To: Salvavida

Yeah, it’s a “sin issue” alright, but “black community” members are, on a per capita basis, dealing less well with that sin issue than “white community” members of identical economic standing. It’s not “racism” to cite statistics, or refer to factual information about crime in the black community. This guy’s just another case-in-point.

Yeah, it’s too bad.
Yeah, we’d like it to be otherwise.
But damnable Democrats have been brainwashing the black community for DECADES, and this kid is just a typical result of that infernal brainwashing.
Why do you think all of the stuff that’s coming out of Washington are called “programs”?
Ultimately, it’s all socioeconomic engineering that works to “program” people’s minds to think along certain carefully selected, predetermined lines of thought.
Yeah, Jackel had a burden of personal responsibility, but that Democrat “programming” is a more potent force than any drug he’s ever taken.

You try to rectify a problem like slavery, and then you take those people and keep them in “less than” status for another century after that, and then FINALLY — after a bitter fight in the Congress — declare the Truth: they’re EQUAL in every respect. BUT you let Democrats — the same stock, breed, and mindframe that ran the old plantations — craft all of the social programs and all of the messaging addressed to this newly liberated community... You ain’t gonna end up with a liberated community. You’re gonna get a lot of what the statistics show: poverty, crime, dereliction, all the worst plagues found in any society will be amplified in that community.

And that’s what statistics on crime consistently tell us about the black community in America.

NOT that Republicans are pure as the wind-driven snow, but Democrats have WORKED OVERTIME NOT to let this black community EVER satisfy their “yearning to breathe free”; they have for 140 YEARS kept their damned boots on the necks of the black man and his family; FIRST literally, and for the last 50 years figuratively; and all the while they point at Republicans and say “They’re keepin’ you down, bre. Those Republicans are keepin’ you DOWN.” And what message to the contrary — what stream of Truth — ever gets to a kid like this to tell him anything different?

This guy’s a perpetrator of this crime, but he’s a victim of a FAR more pernicious and vile crime: a decades-long, finely orchestrated mindcrime invented by Democrats, implemented by Democrats, promoted by Democrats, glorified by Democrats and their media sock puppet bootlickers on TV...

THIS is what conservatives have been fighting to expose and eradicate once and for all; many for their whole politically-aware lives. And now we’re to the point where we find a big reason we’ve not succeeded in our efforts to be rid of it because we’ve got entrenched addicts to this corrupt system in our own Party; “establishment” Republicans, RINO’s who’re every last bit as vile and guilty for this mess as any bigoted Southern Democrat you’d ever care to name.

Sen. McCain is the same as former Sen. Robert Byrd? Yeah. Pretty much that’s what I’m sayin’.
You look at their history in politics and you’ll eventually reach the conclusion that — party lines be damned — ain’t either one of ‘em ever really wanted the black man to get out from under the crushing weight of Federal programs that were supposedly created to help him up.

Yeah. Poor Jackel. He’s done it now. But he’s been programmed to behave this way. And all those programs were written by Democrats, and helped into Law by RINO’s who failed to resist.


41 posted on 03/23/2016 12:21:58 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Salvavida

Some angels are obviously not as smart as others.

It’s called a Bell Curve. God created that, too.

Deal with it.

L


42 posted on 03/23/2016 5:11:55 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: smokingfrog

He dinn do nuffin


43 posted on 03/23/2016 7:52:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: HKMk23
This article was about one man and one crime. Yes, the black community has a problem with its culture because of the destruction of the black family.

Whites are more predisposed to being serial killers and committing suicide than blacks. Does that make it right to disparage the whole white race as evil and weak-minded based off of an article dealing with one person?

What is the conservative response? Pointing out how jacked up blacks are, when the context of the article doesn't go beyond one person?

Proclaiming that blacks are intellectually inferior, on a conservative website doesn't do jack shit for the conservative movement, and certainly doesn't make blacks feel like they have an option to become conservative.

Would you join a website that constantly disparages all whites because the perp is white, and the reporting is solely on one event? Of course not. Would you be predisposed to vote for such a movement? Of course not.

We are shooting ourselves in the foot by doing so. I'd like to hear a conversation on this website proposing what whites can do about standing in the gap, being a brother's keeper (Genesis chapter 4), and reaching out to blacks that are hurting because of broken families and a destructive culture.

That would take courage, humility, and would reflect Christ. Everything the conservative movement should be, to distinguish itself from democrats.

44 posted on 03/23/2016 8:16:10 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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“I’d like to hear a conversation on this website proposing what whites can do about standing in the gap, being a brother’s keeper (Genesis chapter 4), and reaching out to blacks that are hurting because of broken families and a destructive culture.”

That “conversation” is the longstanding conversation about how we go about booting Democrats — and, more broadly, as much of government as possible — out of ALL of our lives via the Constitutional processes available to us all, and that conversation is — as this election above any other clearly shows — a uniquely conservative conversation. You cannot tell a child she’s equal to all the girls at the other school across town and have her believe it when you turn right around and say, “Well, here, you qualify for this and the other aid that you’re entitled to because you’re less fortunate.” What you just did is SAY she’s equal, then turn right around and destroy all of your credibility by DEMONSTRATING that you don’t believe what you SAID; “It’s alright, honey, you’re every bit as good as all those other girls, and I’m a lyin’ sack of crap tellin’ you so.”

That’s a Democrat hallmark if there ever was one.

And there’s not been anybody but conservatives EVER tried to get in and put a once-and-for-all stop to it. Oh, yeah, we heard Republicans years and years ago talk about doing something here or there, and you’d see a bit of movement sometimes. All it amounted to in the long run was rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The ship sails on into oblivion.

You bemoan people around here talking just about the black community’s problems, and this kid’s issues stand as a case-in-point. But what you’re not thinking of is that conservatives don’t speak about solutions along racial lines like Democrats do. The main problem in the black community is also the main problem in the white community, the Latino community, the Asian community, the Jewish community, and every other community in this country: there’s TOO MUCH DAMNED GOVERNMENT permeating the fabric of our communities!

But I’ll tell you something: when a community that’s been savaged by government goes on voting right down the line for the people who’ve brought all that government into their midst and done all the damage that they’re still suffering under...

I mean — what can you do?

At SOME POINT that community has to WAKE UP and VOTE DIFFERENT!

You’ve got people saying, “Well, we hate this and that thing we’re seeing in our community.” So you take a look at those things and you find out it’s government that’s causing those things by one means or another. And you find out it’s Democrats that brought that legislation to life that’s driving the problems in that community. So then you go back to that community and tell them, “Hey, I checked into those things you hate in your community, and you could be rid of them if you voted different; those conservatives on the ballot have the answers you need.”

You just go try that and not get your ass beat.

So conservatives have been unable to make much inroad that way. Conservatives have had to resort to trying to get the job done WITHOUT most of the votes of those communities, and that just exacerbate’s the situation because — naturally — Democrats can pretty easily point to that and make the accusation that conservatives don’t care, or that conservatives are working to set everyone else against that community so as to take things away from them. The implication being that taking those things away would make life worse, when — in fact — the removal of government would fling wide the plantation gates and pave the way to making life far better. To make matters worse, the few voters conservatives do win among those communities get savaged by their own communities for siding with “those evil conservatives” in voting to take government — the Bringer Of All That Is Worth Having — out of the community.

In the end, I don’t have any magic wand I can wave to overcome a community’s myopia concerning where their harm comes from versus where their help could come from if they’d only change their votes. All I can do is continue advancing conservative ideals, AND continue pointing out everywhere, and everyone — including young Jackel — that’s being damaged by the ideals fronted by invasive government push upon them by Democrats.

Perhaps “government” ought to be forced it to go by the name “My Precious”?


45 posted on 03/23/2016 10:53:31 AM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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I hear you, but I don't think it is a government issue. I work in government and can attest we screw up everything. We used to do defense right, and now we can't even honestly say that.

This is an issue that conservatives need to embrace as a platform in order to (1) reflect Christ, (2) win blacks over (and everyone else), and (3) change the culture.

46 posted on 03/23/2016 10:57:33 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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