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California Regulators Give Ivanpah Solar Plant More Time
WSJ ^ | March 17, 2016 | Cassandra Sweet

Posted on 03/18/2016 12:56:54 PM PDT by beaversmom

California regulators threw a lifeline Thursday to the struggling Ivanpah solar plant, which has failed to generate the electricity it is required to produce under contracts with PG&E Corp.

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1 posted on 03/18/2016 12:56:54 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Too stupid to fail...


2 posted on 03/18/2016 12:59:41 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?" - Gen. "Chesty" Puller, at a flamethrower demonstration.)
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To: beaversmom

Of course they did. Liberals always give non-producers all the time they need. Producers, whether it be taxes, or environmental regulations, of labor regulations, have until yesterday.


3 posted on 03/18/2016 1:01:03 PM PDT by fhayek
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See also here:

Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy [Ivanpah]
March 17, 2016
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3410760/posts

Could California’s massive Ivanpah solar power plant be forced to go dark?
March 16, 2016
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3410908/posts

The $2.2 Billion Bird-Scorching Solar Project At California’s Ivanpah Plant
February 17, 2014
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/13/the-2-2-billion-bird-scorching-solar-project-at-californias-ivanpah-plant/

Google Invests $168 Million in Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System
2011
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2704103/posts


4 posted on 03/18/2016 1:01:12 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

When your in a hole, stop digging.


5 posted on 03/18/2016 1:02:39 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: unixfox

Not the leftist way...they just need more spoons and they will get there. You shall see!


6 posted on 03/18/2016 1:05:02 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
What would Trump, do?

I do not think Solar farms are a good idea. Those rays are supposed to kiss the earth.

7 posted on 03/18/2016 1:06:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: beaversmom

Most likely killed far more birds than they allege DDT did.


8 posted on 03/18/2016 1:07:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: beaversmom

If that is a Milton Friedman reference, two thumbs up.


9 posted on 03/18/2016 1:14:03 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: beaversmom

I guess it produces enough electricity to pay its maintenance and upkeep costs.
Even if you forced the current owners into bankruptcy the plant could produce whatever it can under new ownership and continue operation.


10 posted on 03/18/2016 1:14:10 PM PDT by conejo99
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To: jessduntno

BUT, BUT, BUT, solar power is FREE!


11 posted on 03/18/2016 1:14:17 PM PDT by Ed Condon (subliminal messages here in invisible ink)
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To: fhayek

Thanks. :) It was kinda. I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer (to keep the theme of eating utensils), but I do know the spoon story. :)


12 posted on 03/18/2016 1:17:46 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Obviously this only makes juice in the daytime.

Anybody know what the “swing” source is otherwise?

Do they have storage or just buy juice from elsewhere?


13 posted on 03/18/2016 1:18:12 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: beaversmom

If you ever heard some of the Bob Newhart’s spoof routines, where he poked fun at various things; this half-assed idea is made to order for a Newhart routine.

You con the gubmint into loaning you $2.2 BILLION$, to put a tank full of water on top of a tower, and then reflect sunlight from mirrors on the ground onto the tank to make the water boil, creating steam. The steam pressure spins a turbine to generate electricity, which is then routed to LA, to power the city.

Oh yes, this Rube Goldberg set-up is in the Mohave Desert, so the water has to be piped in from where? The more details one hears, the more stupid it appears. Only friends of Obama could pull off a scam like this; getting the $2.2 Billion. How much of that money has made its way into the Democrat Party coffers?

This bad LSD trip of an idea deserves to be included with Newhart’s “Grace L. Ferguson Airline & Storm Door Company”; or “The School for Bus Drivers”; or “A Griper in the Revolutionary Army”.

And a bunch of thieves in the current Democrat administration deserve to be in Leavenworth Prison.


14 posted on 03/18/2016 1:23:41 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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15 posted on 03/18/2016 1:24:35 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
In November 2014, Associated Press reported that the plant was producing only "about half of its expected annual output". The California Energy Commission issued a statement blaming this on "clouds, jet contrails and weather".

I didn't think it was possible, but California's "regulators" are even more incompetent than Barack Omugabes's!

Would this be the same California regulators who approved the facility in the first place?

When they approved the damned thing, There were no "clouds, jet contrails and weather" at the Nevada/California border???

16 posted on 03/18/2016 1:35:52 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Tucker39
You con the gubmint into loaning you $2.2 BILLION$, to put a tank full of water on top of a tower, and then reflect sunlight from mirrors on the ground onto the tank to make the water boil, creating steam. The steam pressure spins a turbine to generate electricity, which is then routed to LA, to power the city.

Still left unsaid, is the well known Physical rule of High Voltage AC electrical transmission : Typically, HALF of generated energy is lost in transmission (unless the generators are next door)

How long is the transmission line from Ivanpah to El Lay??

Oh yes, this Rube Goldberg set-up is in the Mohave Desert, so the water has to be piped in from where? The more details one hears, the more stupid it appears. Only friends of Obama could pull off a scam like this; getting the $2.2 Billion. How much of that money has made its way into the Democrat Party coffers?

17 posted on 03/18/2016 1:49:55 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: beaversmom

Haha…that looks like a Bird Grill to me! I refuse to subscribe to the wsj, so how much more time do they get….till Hillary leaves office?


18 posted on 03/18/2016 1:52:12 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: beaversmom

Driving a back road in my town recently i was shocked to see a solar wind farm.
Gee, i wonder who paid for that....
Anyways i took a close look the panels they are all oxidized and look like crap, probably getting 40% of the light they got when new.
It SNOWS here in MA and believe it or not it is dark or clouding over 50% of the time.
At this latitude Solar is BS anyways.
YEA.....my heart fluttered when i saw it...
Renewable Energy!!
Wonder what % of my outrageous light bill goes towards THAT boondoggle..


19 posted on 03/18/2016 1:59:09 PM PDT by mowowie (`)
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Whoops, NOT wind, Solar...even thought there are a few stupid wind turbines around here as well.


20 posted on 03/18/2016 2:00:30 PM PDT by mowowie (`)
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