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Republicans Are Addicted to Increasing Federal Spending
daily signal ^ | 3/15/16 | t binion

Posted on 03/15/2016 6:39:12 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop

Three out of every four Americans say Congress should not increase spending. That’s not 73 percent of the Tea Party, or 73 percent of the Republican Party. That’s 73 percent of all Americans who say Congress should not increase federal spending.

Republicans seem to have missed that message.

Since 2013, the GOP has consistently proposed budgets that increase spending, and not by just a little. Consider that the Republican budget for the 2014 fiscal year, offered by then-Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., proposed $966 billion in base spending. This year, Speaker Ryan is pushing a budget that proposes $1.07 trillion.

That means in four years, Republicans have increased their proposal by $104 billion. Of course, these issues are never really black and white, and there are lots of arguments that can (and will) be made about how the sequester, the filibuster, and the Democrats are to blame for this increase in federal spending.

But, what is most troubling about the increased level of spending—it’s that these higher spending numbers are supported exclusively by Republicans, the party of fiscal discipline.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailysignal.com ...


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1 posted on 03/15/2016 6:39:12 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: doldrumsforgop

Not just the Republicans. The whole freaking country.


2 posted on 03/15/2016 6:41:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Over the past thirty Plus years we have been lowering taxes on the country club GOP establishment. But, big government is big business. They don't mind big government so long as they do not have to pay for it. Lowering their taxes was a big mistake. If they spend the money they should pay for it.
3 posted on 03/15/2016 6:46:23 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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Thank you for referencing that article doldrumsforgop. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

It’s federal budget discussion time again ! =^)

From a related thread …

Regardless what FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices wanted everybody to believe about the scope of Congress’s Commerce Clause powers (1.8.3), a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues.

In other words, Congress cannot appropriate taxes for any issue that it cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, appropriating taxes for vote-winning Planned Parenthood funding for example, not among those powers.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Based on the Court’s statement above, here is a rough approximation of how much taxpayers should be paying Congress annually to perform its Section 8-limited power duties.

Given that the plurality of clauses in Section 8 deal with defense, and given that the Department of Defense budget for 2015 was $500+ billion, I will generously round up the $500+ billion figure to $1 trillion (but probably much less) as the annual price tag of the federal government to the taxpayers.

In other words, the corrupt media, including Obama guard dog Fx Noise, should not be reporting multi-trillion dollar annual federal budgets without mentioning the Supreme Court’s clarification of Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes in budget discussions.

Remember in November !

When patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its Section 8-limited powers to support the new president, but also protect the states from unconstitutional federal government overreach, including putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxing and spending.

Also, consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

4 posted on 03/15/2016 6:52:47 PM PDT by Amendment10
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5 posted on 03/15/2016 6:58:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Amendment10

Amen to you in Post 4 - I wish more people talked about it. It truly pains me to understand what we are doing to our children and grandchildren - it’s immoral, illegal, unethical, and unconstitutional. Anyone who can twist the constitution to believe that we have a right to financially enslave future generations to prop up unconstitutional spending today is not someone who is worthy of being called an American.

They are not just misappropriating our taxes - they are debasing our currency and putting us into catastrophic debt with bankers because they insist on spending twice what they take.


6 posted on 03/15/2016 7:02:25 PM PDT by volunbeer (ABH for President! - Anybody but Hillary)
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To: Amendment10

so what person will most likely embrace the constitution that you referenced?

Is it Trump? Hillary? Cruz? Kasich? Sanders?


7 posted on 03/15/2016 7:07:15 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: doldrumsforgop

As long as we have a pure fiat, debt based monetary system, the Budget Can NEVER BE Balanced.


8 posted on 03/15/2016 7:16:11 PM PDT by eyeamok
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"Is it Trump? Hillary? Cruz? Kasich? Sanders?"

Trump imo. He is not owned by special interests. And he would probably like to see the nation work as the founders had intended for it to work, particularly where limited power federal government is concerned.

But Trump’s supporters need to get him up to speed on the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers since, probably like most other citizens, he evidently hasn’t studied those powers.

Note that Judge Andrew Napolitano will read Congress’s Section 8-limited powers to anybody who has about three minutes to spare.

Judge Napolitano & the Constitution

9 posted on 03/15/2016 7:22:00 PM PDT by Amendment10
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“And he would probably like to see the nation work as the founders had intended for it to work, particularly where limited power federal government is concerned. “

The word ‘probably’ is what keeps me up at night.

A narcissist is more than likely to be thinking about himself rather than the Constitution.


10 posted on 03/15/2016 7:24:53 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: Amendment10
But Trump’s supporters need to get him up to speed on the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers since, probably like most other citizens, he evidently hasn’t studied those powers.

When he talked about not giving and federal land back to the States because they can't be trusted to take care of it, there should have been alarm bells going off. Doesn't seem to have fazed them.

11 posted on 03/15/2016 7:27:40 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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"When he talked about not giving and federal land back to the States because they can't be trusted to take care of it, ..."

Regarding Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes, consider that the states don’t have the revenues to take care of land and provide services to their citizens because unconstitutional federal taxes are so great.

12 posted on 03/15/2016 7:33:59 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Regarding Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes, consider that the states don’t have the revenues to take care of land and provide services to their citizens because unconstitutional federal taxes are so great.

IMHO, the fundamental problem with what he's saying is the issue of trust.

13 posted on 03/15/2016 7:51:52 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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"“And he would probably like to see the nation work as the founders had intended for it to work,"

Wait until Trump and other rich people find out that they are paying taxes for federal government services that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to establish.

In fact, if rich people bribe federal lawmakers to put tax loopholes in appropriations bills, consider that corrupt lawmakers must laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting such loopholes in bills that they didn’t have the constitutional authority to make.

14 posted on 03/15/2016 7:56:31 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: doldrumsforgop

And they wonder “why Trump?”


15 posted on 03/15/2016 8:34:50 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Conservatives are to the Republican party what blacks are to the Democrat Party" - Awgie)
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To: Brilliant

No truer words have been spoken. What we have learned this election cycle is that nobody wants the gravy train to stop, Left or Trumpian Right. We are all going to ride that Entitlement train right off the cliff singing “Cut the other guys handout, leave mine alone.”


16 posted on 03/15/2016 9:24:10 PM PDT by gusty
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To: doldrumsforgop

These numbers make no sense.

The Feds spent $3.69 trillion last year.


17 posted on 03/15/2016 9:30:45 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Brilliant

You have to blame the voters. People say cut spending, but not the spending that benefits them. If Americans really wanted smaller government we would have it by now.


18 posted on 03/15/2016 9:31:08 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: doldrumsforgop

Politicians sell their souls for party politics at the expense of the dwindling general working Americans . More than ever we need a strong leader not bought by big money to run the largest business in the world and get this spending under control.

President Trump: we need to see results from day one of your administration. Make us proud to be Americans who have discovered what frugality means.


19 posted on 03/16/2016 5:44:13 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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“Regarding Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes, consider that the states don’t have the revenues to take care of land and provide services to their citizens because unconstitutional federal taxes are so great. “

The easy solution here then is for the govt to sell the land to privatize it.

Not only does the feds or state not have to steward it, but they can generate tax revenues off it.

Please indicate why this is not optimum for a free society.


20 posted on 03/16/2016 6:58:25 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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