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To: Swordmaker

Lots of words here to obfuscate a simple fact - Apple is ignoring a court order which they will find out is never a good idea. Give LE what they need. There is no doubt whatsoever a crime has been committed, get real.


4 posted on 03/13/2016 1:28:17 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: Kenny500c
But to force a company to provide a back door whenever the government wants, needs to be resisted. The government spies on its own citizens all the time and without a warrant. And the head of the NSA lied to congress about it.

Sorry, the government has destroyed any trust that the people had left in it.

5 posted on 03/13/2016 1:36:16 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Kenny500c
What the FBI wants doesn't exist: the comparable case would be a safe manufacturer who created a particularly hard enclosure that cannot be drilled using existing technology and then compelling them to invent a drill that can defeat their own design.

It seems to me that in both cases that even if the FBI had the legal authority to do so, it would have to pay for the technology to be developed and also pay for the damage to the company's commercial reputation incumbent upon defeating its own technology, i.e., several billion dollars in Apple's case.

6 posted on 03/13/2016 1:36:25 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Kenny500c
a simple fact

Not so simple.

Apple is being ordered to turn over something that does not exist!

9 posted on 03/13/2016 2:17:33 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Kenny500c
Apple is ignoring a court order

The are obviously not ignoring it, they are fighting it. A court order with the same tech. issue and the exact same legal argument (AWA) was just overturned in another case.

11 posted on 03/13/2016 2:22:10 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: Kenny500c

The author quickly conflates Judicial courts with Executive agencies...

It’s very silly.


12 posted on 03/13/2016 2:23:00 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Kenny500c
There is no doubt whatsoever a crime has been committed, get real.

You're wrong. There is a doubt. While the iPhone was in the FBI's hands, they had full access to it and changed the I.D., thereby covering up whatever information they had accessed. The FBI may or may not already know what data is in the phone, so there is a doubt as to any crime. Going after Apple is nothing more than a scam perpetuated by the FBI on the public.

26 posted on 03/13/2016 3:12:08 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kenny500c
Your simple fact is not a fact. Apple is not ignoring anything.

The original order gave Apple time to respond if they believed compliance would be unreasonably burdensome. That is exactly what Apple did.

36 posted on 03/13/2016 3:42:33 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Kenny500c

“Trump on the rise in Ohio. Watch for Rubio to drop out tomorrow. Just sayin’.”

Sure you’re on the right website Kenny? FR stands for the rule of law, not the rule of government expediency. You might be more comfortable over at DU.


66 posted on 03/14/2016 4:23:21 AM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: Kenny500c
"Apple is ignoring a court order which they will find out is never a good idea. "

Fine. Be the first to step up and surrender access your SSN, bank access codes, credit card security, etc. to our dictatorial government.

But keep this in mind: courts have ZERO RIGHT to dictate and enact law.

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When the court is contemptible, contempt of court is the only honorable position.


68 posted on 03/14/2016 6:11:09 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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