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Can the UN legally impose a solution on Israel? [Joel 3]
Israel National News ^ | 3/10/2016 | Ted Belman

Posted on 03/11/2016 10:42:41 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski
Spiritually and Torah/Talmud ignorant...

The verse in Genesis (25:30) informs us that Esau himself was called Edom: “And Esau said to Jacob: ‘Pour me some of that red stuff because I’m tired’ – therefore he called him Edom”

Later in Genesis (36:9) the Torah tells us that Esau was the ‘Father’ of the Nation of Edom: “These are the generations of Esau, the Father of Edom”

Now it is clear from the Talmud and other sources that the Romans are viewed as descendants of Esau; when Rebecca was informed that she would have twins, G-d says to her: “There are two nations in your womb”

The Medrash on this verse plays with the Hebrew word for nations (based on the strange way the word is written in the Torah Scroll): “Read this as ‘two aristocrats in your womb’, Adrianus in Rome and Shlomo in Israel, Antoninus in Rome and Rebbi (Rabbi Judah HaNasi) in Israel”

The Talmud shows that historically the Jews took the Roman’s connection to Esau very seriously: “Once the Romans decreed that no Jew could study Torah, keep the Shabbat or circumcise a child…the Jews organized a demonstration by night and shouted: BY GOD! ARE WE NOT CHILDREN OF ONE FATHER? ARE WE NOT THE CHILDREN OF ONE MOTHER? WHY ARE WE BEING SINGLED OUT FOR ILL-TREATMENT?

The Romans canceled the decree. (Rosh Hashana 19a)

What is essential to understand is that the World view of Esau has been passed down as a cultural inheritance throughout history from Edom, to the Roman Empire, to the Catholic Church, to Modern Europe and most recently to the United States and its ‘empire’ – in other words, Western Civilization as a whole.

The alliance is 100% in accordance with Torah/Talmud/Zohar and is easily provable by the nations, gathering of nations, and religion detailed above, not to mention daily news.

21 posted on 03/14/2016 11:47:41 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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That is your problem...you follow the Talmud (oral tradition and commentary) rather than the Word of God (Torah). Easu was the brother of Jacob and father of the Arab peoples. Especially in his marriage to Ishmael's daughter. The Edomites continue along side Israel even until Malachi, where God says they will rebuild the waste places. Even today, the Arabs (Edom) rebuilds their cities using oil money. In the Tanakh, Ezekiel 25&35 they continue to be the sworn enemy of Judaism and want to erase it from the Middle East and the Mountains of Israel. Rome is definitely talked about in the Tanakh, specifically Daniel 2,7,8,9, and 11.

Roman hatred of Jews, including Hitler, has always been inspired by Islamic hatred (specifically, Al-Husseini, Arafat's Uncle and the Turks). Herod the Great was an Edomite (with some Jewish Blood) that became a Roman citizen. Does becoming a Roman citizen make someone of Roman heritage? No! Edom continues today in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the other Arab Nations. As the Torah says, in the last days, Edom will break the yoke of Jacob. Obadiah and Ezekiel show that Edom (Arabia) will be destroyed because of their everlasting hatred of Israel.
22 posted on 03/15/2016 2:35:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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That is your problem...you follow the Talmud (oral tradition and commentary) rather than the Word of God (Torah).

Absurdity, incorrect on so many levels, and a false dichotomy all in one sentence, congratulations.

In the Bible Edom is described as the eternal enemy of Israel (and Judah, Amos 1:11; Ezek. 35:5) who not only always oppressed Israel, but at the time of the destruction of the First Temple took advantage of the situation and seized control of parts of Judah (Ezek. 25:12; 35:5, 10, 2; Obad. 11–16), and it is hinted that Edom also took part in the destruction of Jerusalem (Ps. 137:7; Obad. 11) and even in that of the Temple itself (Obad. 16). In consequence, during the Second Temple period there spread a belief that it was actually the Edomites who burned the First Temple (I Esdras 4:45; Ethiopian Enoch 89:66), and also interfered with the building of the Second Temple (ibid., 72). Hence the intense enmity toward Edom which grew stronger in the course of time (Ecclus. 50:25–26), until the conquest of Edom and its conversion to Judaism in the time of John Hyrcanus – a conquest which is the background to the descriptions of the wars of Jacob and his sons with Esau and his sons in the Book of Jubilees (37–38) and in the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs (Judah 9).

Edom is even compared to a black boar (I En. 89:12, 42–43, 49, 66; Jub. 37:20, 24). The intense hatred of Rome after the cruel crushing of the revolt of the Diaspora in the time of Trajan and still more after the harsh suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt and the decrees of persecution in Hadrian's days; the fact that Rome, like Edom, had destroyed the Temple; the similarity of Edom, compared to a pig, with Rome, for whom the pig (or, more correctly, the sow) was a most important symbol; the allusions to Edom dwelling on high like an eagle and the fact that the eagle, too, was an important Roman symbol; and perhaps finally even the similarity to the name Rome and Romans in several verses that speak of Edom, Seir, and Esau – all these apparently combined to cause the application to Rome of the biblical references to Edom, the eternal enemy of Israel.

Rome (the West, right down to the American Eagle) are all against Israel - BDS, trying to divide Eretz Yisrael, handing the Persians nuclear weapons technology and cash, promoting a fake people and fake land, overthrowing countries and assassinating their leaders so ISIS can thrive, etc.

Look again and the gathering of nations country list and their primary religion - Christianity.

Do some research on the Christian - Muslim alliance against Israel (this will help to explain why Islam is invading Europe with Europe's blessing and also the US).

You are up against Torah & Talmud truth AND modern day End-of-Years reality that is 100% consistent with that truth.

23 posted on 03/15/2016 7:38:08 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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So Pompey, the Edomite, sacked Jerusalem in 63BCE? If Rome is Edom, who is Edom...Rome? Was Herod really Etruscan?


24 posted on 03/16/2016 10:44:28 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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