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ATF completes trace of guns from Twin Peaks shootout
WacoTrib ^ | 3/10/2016 | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

Posted on 03/11/2016 8:23:28 AM PST by Elderberry

At least one federal agency called upon to assist Waco and McLennan County law enforcement officials after the Twin Peaks shootout has completed its task.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has traced the histories of 151 firearms recovered from the restaurant grounds and seized from bikers’ vehicles May 17 after nine people were killed, two dozen wounded and 177 jailed on engaging in organized criminal activity charges.

Senior Special Agent Nicole Strong, an ATF spokeswoman, said Thursday that the ATF was asked to perform firearms traces but is leaving any investigative decisions up to the Waco Police Department and the McLennan County District Attorney’s Office.

“We have completed the firearms traces,” Strong said. “It is essentially tracking the life of the firearms, from the point it was manufactured, to who the first purchaser was — which is normally a licensed firearms dealer — to who the next purchaser was all the way down to the final purchase. How many times did it get bought and sold? We are complete with our end of it and, obviously, the investigation is a question for Waco PD. They just asked us to trace the guns.”

Strong said the guns were shipped to a lab in California for the ATF’s role in the investigation.

“The main goal was to see who the legal purchaser was,” she said. “We wanted to know if a gun went from a manufacturer to John Smith and that is the last known purchase, and then that gun ends up in the hands of one of the people in the Twin Peaks shooting who was in prohibited possession. We want to know how it went from a legal possession to an illegal possessor.”

Houston attorney Paul Looney, who represents Cody Ledbetter, a member of the Cossacks motorcycle group, has asked a Waco appeals court to order 19th State District Judge Ralph Strother to set a speedy trial date for Ledbetter.

He said the news that the ATF has finished its trace work is meaningless to his client because he did not have a weapon that day.

“I don’t think it matters much,” Looney said. “There wasn’t ever a weapon that anybody thought that my client had from the very beginning. Law enforcement knows my client didn’t have a weapon, so it doesn’t help my client a bit.”

District Attorney Abel Reyna did not return phone messages left at his office. His first assistant, Michael Jarrett, has said that it could be up to a year before analysis of evidence from the case is finished and that his office is not ready to go to trial.

“It just perplexes me that they went and arrested everybody and indicted everybody and then chose to throw the evidence together later,” Looney said Thursday. “That is just not the way we do things in America. In America, we get our evidence together, then we follow it with an arrest and indictment. This is my first experience with arrest them first and figure out the evidence later. If that is the reason they are delaying my client’s trial, that is just unconscionable.”

Looney said he and his client, who is free on bond, are waiting for the 10th Court of Appeals to rule on his application for writ of mandamus, which asks the court to order Strother to give Ledbetter a trial date.

“I don’t know how they can ignore that request, but in this case, the unbelievable seems to be the routine,” Looney said.

The term of the grand jury that returned indictments against 106 bikers was extended through March to continue the Twin Peaks investigation. The grand jury is set to return March 23 to consider the remaining cases.


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To: precisionshootist

“This is a disgrace to the state of Texas. “

For all their “horn tooting” about what a “wonderful, free place” Texas is, Texas’ just us system is a disgrace. You can’t have freedom if your justice system isn’t fair and impartial, and Texas’ system doesn’t begin to pass the smell test. Just look at what that criminal DA, Ronnie Earle did to Tom DeLay, and how his predecessor tried to try a sitting governor for removing her from some commission because she’s a slobbering drunk!


21 posted on 03/11/2016 11:02:10 AM PST by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: Salamander

“If you can’t trust the government, who can you trust?”

Cody Ledbetter?


The clubs, farm teams for the Bandidos, wore black leather motorcycle vests with patches of red and gold - the colors of the Bandidos - to show their allegiance.

The riders kept coming. Too many.

“We’re done,” Ledbetter thought to himself.


22 posted on 03/11/2016 11:08:09 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: George from New England
This is what happens to a good state when under the thumb of the federal government. Take the feds out of the loop and this would have never happened in the first place.

I'm not entirely sure of that. Waco seems to be a pretty messed up place.

23 posted on 03/11/2016 11:16:24 AM PST by zeugma (Vote Cruz!)
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To: Elderberry
What is this "trace" crap? If these are lawfully-owned firearms, the ATF does not legally have records to run a "trace" on them. In other words, if I buy a Glock 19 from a guy who was the first person (after the dealer) to own it, how does the ATF know I have that Glock? THEY DON'T. There is no gun registration in Texas, nor in most US states.

So I ask again: what is this "trace" stuff?

24 posted on 03/11/2016 12:33:29 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer
So I ask again: what is this "trace" stuff?

I could see them hounding the mfg to see where it went out to.

To a distributor, or direct to a customer via a FFl.

Then hound them to identify the buyer.

Then hound the first buyer to see if he still has it or where did it go from there?

There is no firearms database that I'm aware of.

25 posted on 03/11/2016 1:08:57 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: backwoods-engineer

“What is this “trace” crap?”

I suspect Reyna doesn’t have enough evidence to prosecute all “involved” and is simply fishing for something to pin on them.

Multiple civil rights violations occurred at Twin Peaks by multiple agencies which may eventually see the light of day.

In the meantime, wonder what happened with those ballistic reports?

Hmmmm....


26 posted on 03/12/2016 7:05:14 AM PST by LastDayz (Few men desire liberty, most men wish only for a just master. Sallust)
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