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Confusion follows Trump flip-flop on key immigration issue
Mt. Vernon Register-News ^ | March 10, 2016 | Byron York

Posted on 03/10/2016 9:46:06 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: Wpin
There hasn’t been any flip flopping

Trump said in last week's debate: "I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

21 posted on 03/10/2016 9:56:37 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Parmenio

I am not talking about line developers and analysts and DBAs. I am talking about high-skilled positions, such as system architects. Persons like that do tend to create more jobs in their organizations. I think the Japanese model handles it best - the person has to be paid 125 percent of average for the position. That way, the person brought in truly has to be very good at what they do.


22 posted on 03/10/2016 9:56:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz for President.


23 posted on 03/10/2016 9:56:42 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: TexasFreeper2009

If Ted Cruz said “”I’m changing,” Trump said. “I’m changing. We need highly skilled people in this country, and if we can’t do it, we’ll get them in. But, and we do need in Silicon Valley, we absolutely have to have.”

The trump supporters would go nuts


24 posted on 03/10/2016 9:57:11 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: WENDLE

What do you think Trump is promoting when he says, “we’re sending them back and “the good ones” can come back in? It is called “touchback” and it is one of the key provisions in the Gang of Eight bill. In fact, when he refers to the good ones being allowed back in, it is again a factor in The Gang of Eight. What someone,,somewhere needs to ask Trump is what is your plan for the good ones once they come back in.....amnesty, pathway to citizenship, entitlement? He has NEVER addressed this and as long as he can get away with it, he won’t.


25 posted on 03/10/2016 9:58:17 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Mechanicos
we do not have enough educated people to compete in the global market place

That's what the Free Traitors claim as they undercut American wages.

26 posted on 03/10/2016 9:58:54 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: ConservingFreedom
an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions

That is in essence the policy in most countries. Exceptions are based on colonial legacies (British Commonwealth) and treaty (European Union). So a German doesn't need to jump through hoops to get a work permit for a job in France, and an Indian or Australian can come into Britain and find work. But an American and his prospective employer have to demonstrate that he or she has qualifications which no native possesses. That should be the rule and strictly enforced here for all jobs.

27 posted on 03/10/2016 9:59:29 AM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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To: WENDLE

Donald “”I’m changing, I’m changing” Trump.

What other deeply held belief will Donald change on a whim? The wall? Illegal immigration? Gun control? Who knows.


28 posted on 03/10/2016 9:59:46 AM PST by gore_sux (Ellison's Minnesotastan = America's terrorist training haven)
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To: WENDLE

He has SESSIONS as his advisor. Looks like Jeff got a ping.


29 posted on 03/10/2016 10:00:06 AM PST by magna carta
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To: ConservingFreedom

Trump’s supposed flip-flop during that debate was probably due to the enforced boredom of having to listen to Kasich. I would assume a fellow debater has to go through the process of shutting him ot to avoid psychic pain, and also being alert because he may attack you and you will have to respond to him. I noticed that my mind begins to wonder whenever Kasich speaks during the debate, and I have started to hit the mute button whenever he speaks. It started when he said something like, “We should all come together and love one another,” or when he walked forward and embraced the weepy guy begging for a hug.


30 posted on 03/10/2016 10:01:12 AM PST by odawg
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To: Mechanicos; Jim Robinson
Another Anti-Trump Hit piece.

...from another National Review Online mouthpiece....

31 posted on 03/10/2016 10:02:06 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Jesus told followers to spread faith through love. Mohammed told followers to spread thru the sword.)
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To: pierrem15

Bingo.


32 posted on 03/10/2016 10:02:11 AM PST by Girlene
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To: ConservingFreedom

“Trump said in last week’s debate: “I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position”.

He stated the next morning that he wasn’t talking about H-1B: “Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration”.

So what WAS he talking about? What’s his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?”

do you realize how stupidly petty you people are...is there any length or distortion that is too much for you that your integrity whispers...stop doing that?


33 posted on 03/10/2016 10:02:56 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Will Trump supporters be consistent?

So may things wrong with this question. Trump does not have supporters he has followers. Don't believe me? They all take an oath to follow him at his rallys.

Trump followers will consistently follow whatever blather Trump is speaking, despite flip flopping in less than 2 hours.

I mean they took an oath.

34 posted on 03/10/2016 10:03:19 AM PST by Iowa David
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To: ConservingFreedom

Trump clarified his stand shortly after the last debate w/regard to H1B visas. His position was that he does not favor the use of H1B visas in order to replace available, qualified U.S. workers w/foreign workers solely for the purpose of cutting costs.

Such actions are prohibited under the current H1B visa legislation and were never the INTENT of the H1B Visa program. Unfortunately, many unscrupulous employers, such as Disney, have done just that and have even required the U.S. workers to train foreigners hired to replace them.

The only area where Trump believes H1B visas would be warranted is where qualified, highly skilled U.S. workers are not available and where the hiring company could prove this is the situation prior to the issuance of the visa. (He mentioned Silicon Valley specifically during the interview.)


35 posted on 03/10/2016 10:06:27 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Iowa David
I mean they took an oath.

You obviously missed that he was joking about that.

36 posted on 03/10/2016 10:12:46 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (With Cruz You Get Rubio)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I do not believe that this issue is being accurately represented here--not at all. Just about everyone--even I--who do not favor anything about our immigration policy since 1965, would go so far as to absolutely deny any visa for people with extremely specialized talents. The issue is the level of specialization that would merit such consideration.

Incidentally, I would hold the total number of immigrants granted permanent status to under 100,000 a year; and I would restore the National Origins formula to apportion that limited number. But the point you make here, is not an indictment of Trump--not at all, even if he would allow a few thousand more folk in than I would. He is the one who has done more to stiffen America's backbone on this issue, than any other living person.

37 posted on 03/10/2016 10:13:31 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Wpin
Trump said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

do you realize how stupidly petty you people are...is there any length or distortion that is too much for you that your integrity whispers...stop doing that?

What a cowardly nonresponse you have posted.

38 posted on 03/10/2016 10:13:48 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Trump clarified his stand shortly after the last debate w/regard to H1B visas. His position was that he does not favor the use of H1B visas in order to replace available, qualified U.S. workers w/foreign workers solely for the purpose of cutting costs.

Trump said in the debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

39 posted on 03/10/2016 10:15:05 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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To: Ohioan
But the point you make here, is not an indictment of Trump

Trump said in last week's debate: "I'm changing it, and I'm softening the position".

He stated the next morning that he wasn't talking about H-1B: "Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration".

So what WAS he talking about? What's his new position and how was his old position different? Will he ever tell us?

40 posted on 03/10/2016 10:16:19 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (Trump fans:'he's no more conservative than Mitt'-www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3389209/posts)
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