Why I support Trump — and resent the elites trying to destroy him- NY Post

New York Post ^ | March 5, 2016 | John C. KlugeT

[traderrob6]

Knock yourself out bro.

[GOPJ]

Sure, we signed up to give our lives for our country, and I will never regret doing so. But doesn’t our commitment require a corresponding responsibility on the part of the president to only expect us to do so when it is both necessary and in the national interest? And since when is bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan so much in the national interest that it is worth killing or maiming 50,000 Americans to try to achieve?

Great post...

[ri4dc]

> If the choice is between American patriotism and sovereignty and GOPe “conservatism,” I’ll chose the former - just as our founding fathers did.

Amen!

You could coin the phrase: sovereignism

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Lots of wisdom here.

[drpix]

"sovereignism"

The globalists of the GOPe, who call themselves "conservatives," kowtow to the sovereignty and stroke the nationalism of every 3rd World country - while attacking American sovereignty and nationalism as racist?

They even send Americans to fight for the borders of foreign countries while surrendering the borders of America.

And the GOPe globalists also call themselves "patriotic" Americans. What a joke! Their only loyalty is to their corporate sponsors and own careers.

[MNJohnnie]

I’ll give you some additional reason to support Trump if he is the nominee.

The Obama Regime AG is trying to criminalize anti-Muslim/Anti Climate change speech.

A Clinton Regime would continue along this road of using the power of the Justice Department, and other federal agencies, to criminalize poltical speech.

Trump would face a hostile media and Congress which would serve, as intended, a check on Executive power.

Clinton would face no such check on Executive Power. Due to the PC Culture that dominates DC, she would have a lap dog press and a rubber stamp Congress/Judiciary. There would be no check on a Clinton Regimes power.

Preservation of at least some measure of limited Govt is the reason you vote for Trump in Nov is he is the nominee.

[Stentor]

The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the dogma matters to them.

What does reality look like from 778 Park Avenue?

[MNJohnnie]

Honestly, what really turns me off from Trump is what I see as political nihilism

It is not Nihilism, it Realism.

Since 1988 Conservatives have faithfully pledges their treasure and time to the GOP.

Despite elections successes in 1988, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2010 and 2014 what have Conservative gotten from the GOP?

Prosperity? Nope worse economy since 1979.

Reduction in Government-nope as expense, corrupt, incompetent, intrusive and bigger then ever

Supreme Court? Nope as far left as it has ever been.

A Nation secure? Nope as at risk in a dangerous world. Military broken, exhausted and overextended.

A respect for rule of law and the Constitution? Nope-Goveremnt, and society, is more lawless then it has ever been.

A healthy growing vibrant society? Nope stagnant or in decline everywhere in every way. So, it not Nihilism, it Realism. It is a realistic assessment that doing the same thing again this year electorally is going to continue this decline and degradation from DC.

You can only overcome inertia in any system with force. So we need to force DC out of it denigrate path onto a new path.

So why Trump rather then Cruz?

I know this falls on deaf ears with 100%ers at NR, Red State and other “Conservative” media but the fact remains, we are a Constitutional Republic that rests on the notion that the people’s Representatives in Government know how to compromise and negotiate.

This feeling that Cruz will ride into DC and dictate the Conservative Media’s 100%er terms to everyone else there is simply wishful thinking. What is more probably is Cruz would be a GOP Carter.

Carter was the same sort of religious political puritan who went to DC and assumed he would dictate his political dogmas to everyone there. The record shows how badly that idea failed.

“Conservative” politicians talk a good game and then go to DC and accomplish nothing. After 30 years of fail, it is time to try another solution. The winning candidate is “GASP” going to have to cut DEALS! And some times those deals require..compromise!!!

Another fail point for the “Principled Conservatives” is they think only as far as the election. Then once they win their purity candidates go to DC and fail against the inertia of the DC/Media political machine. 1988-1994-1998-2000-2002-2004-2010-2014 are all example of where this “Next election” mindset has failed.

Trump is merely the 1st wave of a multi wave assault. Cruz might do for a follow up wave, he is not a 1st wave candidate. Without Trump to lead the way, the Cruz boat would of either been ignored because it was irrelevant, or been shelled into oblivion by the $10s of millions of GOPE attack ads.

The 1st wave job in any assault is to shatter the defenses and open the road for the follow up waves. No matter how flawed you think the vessel is, Trump is the best 1st wave political assault team we have had to hand in my lifetime.

We need to use Trump for all he is worth to shatter the corrupt, “my party right or wrong” mindset that grips vast swaths of the electorate. Break that inertia, get the people thinking outside the party label box and real change is possible. Do not an we slide into a stagnate European style decline that will not end in my lifetime. Cruz shares that agenda point but is not as well equipped by background and media following to achieve that break through as Trump

We either win this now or we have little chance of ever doing it again politically. Once we win we must relentlessly stay on the attack election wave after election wave until we are dead.

I am really not willing to leave this fight to my kids and grand-kids. We have let the ship of state drift since Reagan in the hands of the “smart people”. We failed and most redeem that failure.

This is our generation’s “go” time

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Either there is no will, in which case they are being disingenuous, or there is no ability, in which case they are not competent for the position to which they ask to be elevated. If there is a "third way," I'm not aware of it.

Try "outnumbered', or perhaps "not enough votes".

You're talking about "conservatives" as if they are some kind of hive-mind, and imposing a group punishment upon a lot of individuals who don't bear blame for this. Individual, conservative members of Congress are like babies you're throwing out with the bathwater. It is not their fault that the voters have not sent enough of them to Congress. It is the fault of the voters.

Individual members of Congress are almost powerless -- that is the inescapable, structural truth of the Constitution. They are only 1 of 100 Senators, or one of 435 representatives. And even if they manage to get a majority in their chamber, there is little they can do without a majority in the other chamber and a conservative president. So accusing individual conservatives of being "not willing" or "incompetent" simply because they haven't managed to implement a conservative agenda is just ignoring the realities of their position.

The solution to not having conservative solutions in our government is to elect more conservatives. Not throw out the ones who are already there.

And if Trump supporters are willing to accept him being wrong on some issues because he's right on others, then we probably shouldn't hold conservative members of Congress to a required standard of perfection either.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Thanks for the cut and paste job that you've been posting in other threads. Classy.

That aside, the reason conservatives in Congress haven't gotten us much is because our system of government requires majorities in both houses and a President to pass legislation.

Throwing out the conservatives that exist because there aren't enough of them is nihilism. Especially when their replacements are going to be even worse.

I'll admit there's a small part of me that hopes you get exactly what you apparently want -- Trump as President, and Democrats controlling Congress. Just so I can watch all the crappy arguments/excuse making for entertainment value.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I’m not sure if conservativism will be defined to obscurity. But for now, can’t we all agree to be PATRIOTS?