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To: from occupied ga

No, the FBI is obviously following the Fourth Amendment.
Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless.
Also it affects other constitutional rights such as the right to compel testimony in one’s defense useless.
Not a good thing!

But encryption isn’t going away, so some solution must be found.
One that keeps our rights I hope.


15 posted on 03/02/2016 7:56:26 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless.

So does the company that makes Bic lighters.

16 posted on 03/02/2016 8:01:21 AM PST by Ken H
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To: mrsmith
No, the FBI is obviously following the Fourth Amendment.

Jaw hits floor at this point

Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless

Not really - ever heard of PGP - same argument.


18 posted on 03/02/2016 8:13:48 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerThen ous enemy)
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To: mrsmith

No, the FBI is obviously following the Fourth Amendment.
Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless.


You really should read Monday’s opinion by the judge denying the writ to the FBI.

The FBI is effectively taking the position that Apple does not have the right to sell a device with unbreakable encryption. CALEA, passed by a Democrat majority Congress, explicitly rejects this position.

On the day that Obama announced that his administration would not seek a law to outlaw unbreakable encryption, the Justice Department filed application for writs against Apple to provide software to weaken their encryption scheme ... and thus have the courts do what they decided to not ask Congress to do.

I concede that there are good arguments on both sides of this issue, but lawyers twisting a 1789 law should not be the way to decide this ... this is an issue that should be decided only by Congress. And Congress, through CALEA, has explicitly rejected the Administration position that there should be no devices sold which provide unbreakable encryption.


26 posted on 03/02/2016 6:53:37 PM PST by Mack the knife
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