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To: mvonfr

I called nobody any names whatsoever.

I also did not say anything about nationalism being malignant in and of itself; the USA is itself formed on the basis of nationalism. Only when expressly combined with socialism as a governmental ideology, which entails a dictatorship sans republicanism and with a toy parliament as an appendage (usually); but then it is merely a form of totalitarian socialism after that.

So why the mischaracterization of my words?


37 posted on 02/27/2016 11:43:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Only when expressly combined with socialism as a governmental ideology

Unfortunately, not so simple. Elements of socialism are present in nearly every government ideology today. EU is outright socialist. Some programs of the US government are quite socialist (Obamacare as one example).

So it is just not possible to condemn the nationalism/socialism combination without condemning nationalism in general!

Yet worse, nationalism can be quite ugly without any detectable traces of socialism. Examples are plenty.

Just because NSDAP called itself both nationalist and socialist has very little significance, names of political parties are rarely meaningful. The two use parties have identical names (simply one prefers Greek and the other Latin) and neither stand for democracy aka republic, but rather for oligarchy!

40 posted on 02/27/2016 2:30:50 PM PST by mvonfr
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