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We Absolutely Could Give Reparations To Black People. Here's How.
Huffington Post ^ | February 22, 2016 | Julia Craven

Posted on 02/23/2016 6:58:28 AM PST by C19fan

et's say you're driving down the street and someone rear-ends you. You get out of your car to assess the damage. The person who hit your vehicle gets out of his car, apologizes for the damage and calls his insurance company. Eventually, you receive a check for the harm done.

Now, let's say that for years, if not generations, your family and families like yours have been damaged by your country's political and economic system -- by law and widespread practice, with the intent of benefiting families not like yours -- then the checks for the harm done would be called reparations.

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I am all for reparations under one condition. The reparation check comes with a one way ticket back to Africa and you and you descendants can never enter the US.
1 posted on 02/23/2016 6:58:28 AM PST by C19fan
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Let’s say your great-great-grandfather was driving his Model T one day and got rear-ended.

Now you sue the great-great-grandchildren of the guy driving the car which hit him.


2 posted on 02/23/2016 7:01:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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This would be like paying a ransom to hostages. Once you give in they will continue to do it because they know you will pay up.

These friggin parasites make me puke.


3 posted on 02/23/2016 7:02:04 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: C19fan

Very simple, give reparations to any person that was in a condition of servitude when the 13th Amendment was passed. Their heirs wouldn’t get any as they weren’t in servitude.


4 posted on 02/23/2016 7:02:41 AM PST by glorgau
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To: C19fan

Julia gives us perhaps the worst analogy ever written.

She doesn’t believe in justice.

She believes in buying votes so her criminal syndicate, the Democrat Party, can keep looting the public treasuries.


5 posted on 02/23/2016 7:02:54 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

A google search of Julia will tell you all you need to know about her.


6 posted on 02/23/2016 7:03:33 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: C19fan

Reparations are already being paid. Go into any governmental office.


7 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:21 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: C19fan
When will these African nations ever apologize or pay "reparations" for slavery? Better yet, when will they end the practice?

Slavery in modern Africa

Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans - as did a slave trade that exported millions of sub-Saharan Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf.[1] However, slavery and bondage are still African realities. Hundreds of thousands of Africans still suffer in silence in slave-like situations of forced labour and commercial sexual exploitation from which they cannot free themselves.

Modern-day enslavers also exploit lack of political will at the highest levels of some African governments to effectively tackle trafficking and its root causes. Weak interagency co-ordination and low funding levels for ministries tasked with prosecuting traffickers, preventing trafficking and protecting victims also enable traffickers to continue their operations. The transnational criminal nature of trafficking also overwhelms many countries' law enforcement agencies, which are not equipped to fight organized criminal gangs that operate across national boundaries with impunity.

Slavery by African country

Chad
IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Networks) of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports children being sold to Arab herdsmen in Chad. As part of a new identity imposed on them the herdsman "...change their name, forbid them to speak in their native dialect, ban them from conversing with people from their own ethnic group and make them adopt Islam as their religion."[2]

Mali
The Malian government denies that slavery exists, however, the slavery in Timbuktu is obvious. Slavery still continues with some Tuaregs holding Bella people.[3]

Mauritania
A system exists now by which Arab Muslims -- the bidanes -- own black slaves, the haratines.[4] An estimated 90,000 black Mauritanians remain essentially enslaved to Arab/Berber owners.[5] The ruling bidanes (the name means literally white-skinned people) are descendants of the Sanhaja Berbers and Beni Hassan Arab tribes who emigrated to northwest Africa and present-day Western Sahara and Mauritania during the Middle Ages.[6] According to some estimates, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, or 20% of the population, are still enslaved, many of them used as bonded labour.[7] Slavery in Mauritania was finally criminalized in August 2007.[8] Malouma Messoud, a former Muslim slave has explained her enslavement to a religious leader:

"We didn't learn this history in school; we simply grew up within this social hierarchy and lived it. Slaves believe that if they do not obey their masters, they will not go to paradise. They are raised in a social and religious system that everyday reinforces this idea.[9]"

In Mauritania, despite slave ownership having been banned by law in 1981, hereditary slavery continues.[10] Moreover, according to Amnesty International:

"Not only has the government denied the existence of slavery and failed to respond to cases brought to its attention, it has hampered the activities of organisations which are working on the issue, including by refusing to grant them official recognition".[11]

Imam El Hassan Ould Benyamin of Tayarat in 1997 expressed his views about earlier proclamations ending slavery in his country as follows:

"[it] is contrary to the teachings of the fundamental text of Islamic law, the Quran ... [and] amounts to the expropriation from muslims of their goods; goods that were acquired legally. The state, if it is Islamic, does not have the right to seize my house, my wife or my slave."[12]

Niger
In Niger, where the practice of slavery was outlawed in 2003, a study found that almost 8% of the population are still slaves.[13] Slavery dates back for centuries in Niger and was finally criminalised in 2003, after five years of lobbying by Anti-Slavery International and Nigerian human-rights group, Timidria.[14] More than 870,000 people still live in conditions of forced labour, according to Timidria, a local human rights group.[15][16]

Descent-based slavery, where generations of the same family are born into bondage, is traditionally practiced by at least four of Niger's eight ethnic groups. The slave masters are mostly from the nomadic tribes -- the Tuareg, Fulani, Toubou and Arabs.[17] It is especially rife among the warlike Tuareg, in the wild deserts of north and west Niger, who roam near the borders with Mali and Algeria.[18] In the region of Say on the right bank of the river Niger, it is estimated that three-quarters of the population around 1904-1905 was composed of slaves.[19]

Historically, the Tuareg swelled the ranks of their slaves during war raids into other peoples' lands. War was then the main source of supply of slaves, although many were bought at slave markets, run mostly by indigenous peoples.[20][21]

Sudan
Francis Bok, former Sudanese slave. At the age of seven, he was captured during a raid in Southern Sudan, and enslaved for ten years.(Courtesy Unitarian Universalist Association/Jeanette Leardi)

There has been a recrudescence of jihad slavery since 1983 in the Sudan.[23][24]

Slavery in the Sudan predates Islam, but continued under Islamic rulers and has never completely died out in Sudan. In the Sudan, Christian and animist captives in the civil war are often enslaved, and female prisoners are often used sexually, with their Muslim captors claiming that Islamic law grants them permission.[25] According to CBS news, slaves have been sold for $50 apiece. [1] In 2001 CNN reported the Bush administration was under pressure from Congress, including conservative Christians concerned about religious oppression and slavery, to address issues involved in the Sudanese conflict.[26] CNN has also quoted the U.S. State Department's allegations: "The [Sudanese] government's support of slavery and its continued military action which has resulted in numerous deaths are due in part to the victims' religious beliefs." [2]

Jok Madut Jok, professor of History at Loyola Marymount University, states that the abduction of women and children of the south by north is slavery by any definition. The government of Sudan insists that the whole matter is no more than the traditional tribal feuding over resources.[27]

It is estimated that as many as 200,000 people had been taken into slavery during the Second Sudanese Civil War. The slaves are mostly Dinka people.[28][29]

South Africa
Despite significant efforts made by the South African Government to combat trafficking in persons the country has been placed on the "Tier 2 Watch List" by the US Department of Trafficking in Persons,for the past four years.[47] South Africa shares borders with Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Lesotho, Mozambique and Swaziland. It has 72 official ports of entry "and a number of unofficial ports of entry where people come in and out without being detected" along its 5 000 km-long land borderline. The problem of porous borders is compounded by the lack of adequately trained employees, resulting in few police officials controlling large portions of the country's coastline.

Child slave trade
The trading of children has been reported in modern Nigeria and Benin.[30] The children are kidnapped or purchased for $20 - $70 each by slavers in poorer states, such as Benin and Togo, and sold into slavery in sex dens or as unpaid domestic servants for $350.00 each in wealthier oil-rich states, such as Nigeria and Gabon.[31] [32]

Ghana, Togo, Benin
In parts of Ghana, a family may be punished for an offense by having to turn over a virgin female to serve as a sex slave within the offended family.[33] In this instance, the woman does not gain the title of "wife". In parts of Ghana, Togo, and Benin, shrine slavery persists, despite being illegal in Ghana since 1998. In this system of slavery, sometimes called trokosi (in Ghana) or voodoosi in Togo and Benin, or ritual servitude, young virgin girls are given as slaves in traditional shrines and are used sexually by the priests in addition to providing free labor for the shrine.[34]

Ethiopia
Mahider Bitew, Children's Rights and Protection expert at the Ministry of Women's Affairs, says that some isolated studies conducted in Dire Dawa, Shashemene, Awassa and three other towns of the country indicate that the problem of child trafficking is very serious. According to a 2003 study about one thousand children were trafficked via Dire Dawa to countries of the Middle East. The majority of those children were girls, most of whom were forced to be sex workers after leaving the country. The International Labor Organization (ILO) has identified prostitution as the Worst Form of Child Labor.[35]

In Ethiopia, children are trafficked into prostitution, to provide cheap or unpaid labor and to work as domestic servants or beggars. The ages of these children are usually between 10 and 18 and their trafficking is from the country to urban centers and from cities to the country. Boys are often expected to work in activities such as herding cattle in rural areas and in the weaving industry in Addis Ababa, and other major towns. Girls are expected to take responsibilities for domestic chores, childcare and looking after the sick and to work as prostitutes.[35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa

Or,

http://web.archive.org/web/20160108090835/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa%3C/a%3E

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The Price in Blood
Casualties in the Civil War

At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000.

The number that is most often quoted is 620,000. At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation's loss in all its other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam.

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:
Battle deaths: 110,070
Disease, etc: 250,152
Total 360,222

The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:
Battle deaths: 94,000
Disease, etc: 164,000
Total: 258,000

http://civilwarhome.com/casualties.htm

8 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:27 AM PST by ETL (You can lead a Trump supporter to critical facts & info, but you can't make him/her think)
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Im all for that as long as the government compensates me for the land they stole from my great great grandfather... who owned all of the san francisco bay by captain John C Fremont... You give that back and we will talk


9 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:29 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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No thanks. I’ll take Civil War behind door # 2.


10 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:40 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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OK, then like the queers, I’m going to start “identifying as black” and pick up my share


11 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:45 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: blueunicorn6
She believes in buying votes so her criminal syndicate, the Democrat Party, can keep looting the public treasuries.

Bingo.

12 posted on 02/23/2016 7:04:57 AM PST by Obadiah
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INsane
The only reparation is like you say a one way ticket out of here
The race hustlers want this idea kept alive. The blacks who are for this want free money


13 posted on 02/23/2016 7:05:14 AM PST by RWGinger (Does anyone else really)
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Should be paid for by an income surtax on all registered democrats.


14 posted on 02/23/2016 7:05:24 AM PST by JPJones
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Except they never been there nor do they want them back.


15 posted on 02/23/2016 7:05:42 AM PST by the_individual2014
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I read that whole brutal story. Being the first in my lineage to ever make it big I can only wonder who she thinks she should pay? I don’t owe squat to anyone. It was assumed by her that the govt would pay and she only looked at what she deemed was owed. It was over $7 trillion dollars in her estimation BTW. Scariest thing is you could see some weak politicians going for it just so they could win the next term.


16 posted on 02/23/2016 7:06:51 AM PST by major-pelham
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We have lots of federal land that could be homesteaded out.

How about a one time reparation to the confirmed ancestors of actual slaves, 40 acres, a mule, and if they don’t find that palatable they can sell it.

It would counter Agenda 21, and increase the local tax base for communities that are disproportionally federal land holdings.


17 posted on 02/23/2016 7:07:04 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: C19fan

The human degradation condition of SLAVERY is and has been world wide through-out history
I propose that any individual who comes forth with proof that he/she PERSONALLY has been held in the condition of SLAVERY should justifiably receive adequate reparations.


18 posted on 02/23/2016 7:07:17 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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These modern moochers ought to be grateful that their GGGGG-Grandpappies were slow, otherwise they might be starring in a Save the Children commercial with Sally Struthers.


19 posted on 02/23/2016 7:07:21 AM PST by Augie
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There’s gotta be a great family history / story there! Care to share?


20 posted on 02/23/2016 7:07:23 AM PST by frankenMonkey
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