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The Math and the Map ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | February 22, 2016 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/22/2016 5:03:15 PM PST by ri4dc

US presidential elections have the lowest participation rate almost anywhere in the democratic world: Swedish general election (2014) 85.8 per cent; New Zealand general election (2014) 73.2 per cent; French presidential election (2012) 71.2 per cent; Irish general election (2011) 63.8 per cent; US presidential election (2012) 53.6 per cent.

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Discusses turnout; red vrs. blue states; the electoral path.

My take: It's landslide or loose.

Good article.

1 posted on 02/22/2016 5:03:15 PM PST by ri4dc
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French elections are on Sunday. Just saying.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 5:04:55 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (by reading this, you have collapsed my wave function. Thanks, pal.)
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To: ri4dc

landslide or hangin loose?


3 posted on 02/22/2016 5:07:07 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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Yeah, but all those other countries are very small. Percentages aren’t the best way to think of it.

Overall, millions upon millions more participate than the entire population of Sweden and New Zealand.


4 posted on 02/22/2016 5:10:19 PM PST by Fledermaus (Trump: I Don't Trust Him. Pandering isn't pretty.)
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I’ve also contended that anyone that can get maybe just 10% of those eligible to vote and don’t or don’t register to vote for them, they’d win in a landslide.

Trump might get some of them excited. Or even Bernie gets some. But do they have a ground game to make sure they get registered and vote?


5 posted on 02/22/2016 5:12:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (Trump: I Don't Trust Him. Pandering isn't pretty.)
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To: ri4dc

Long-term demographics are working against the GOP.

And the GOP establishment’s solution is commit suicide to make the Left happy.

We’re likely to see Democratic Presidents in perpetuity if Trump doesn’t win this year.


6 posted on 02/22/2016 5:13:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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As I always post

every year 2.6 million (mostly white, majority R) voters die

and are replaced by

2.7 million (majority minority, heavily D) voters

A difficult trend to fight


7 posted on 02/22/2016 5:16:03 PM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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To: ri4dc
My take: It's landslide or loose.

Could you elaborate?

8 posted on 02/22/2016 5:16:12 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: PhiloBedo

Sorry, landslide or *lose*. Either way, typing slower might help. :)


9 posted on 02/22/2016 5:16:16 PM PST by ri4dc (I used to care, but I just take a pill for that now.)
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What may save conservatism is national bankruptcy and the halting of the gravy train. Maybe the country will split and conservatives will have someplace to go.


10 posted on 02/22/2016 5:16:56 PM PST by quietly desperate
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To: goldstategop

Or if he does win...


11 posted on 02/22/2016 5:17:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Yeah, we may have the lowest turnout, but we by far have the highest deceased participation rate in the world


12 posted on 02/22/2016 5:17:15 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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The conservatives are the ones that talk about the "democracy of the dead".

When are those lazy dead conservatives gonna get up from their dirt naps and perform their public duty and vote!?!

13 posted on 02/22/2016 5:20:50 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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> Could you elaborate?

Well, I would only be echoing what I got from the article. He speaks of the Reagan landslide and how the electoral path has shifted, and not in favor of GOP. Typical tactics of the last few election cycles are increasingly favoring Rats. The true path to victory is to turn over the whole apple cart and inspire voters to come out in record numbers, which is the opposite of what Romney could muster. A landslide is the best path to victory, and only two currently running could pull it off. Trump and Sanders.


14 posted on 02/22/2016 5:22:17 PM PST by ri4dc (I used to care, but I just take a pill for that now.)
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There is some hope that conservatives will re-enter the "liberal arts" segment of the economy.

Conservative organizations are fighting the good fight to allow conservatives to have a fair chance at university jobs.

Conservatives are making movies and occasional TV programs.

Conservatives who have trouble finding work, may end up as high school or elementary school teachers, etc.

The computer gaming industry seems to have its share of libertarians. It would be better if they were conservative, but libertarian is definitely a few steps above liberal and miles above socialist.

15 posted on 02/22/2016 5:24:40 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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Even if Fox News is not as conservative as it once was, it is still a breath of fresh air compared to NPR (there’s a pun in there somewhere), not to mention all the conservative talk shows on radio and cable.


16 posted on 02/22/2016 5:25:58 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ri4dc

Steyn asserts that Trump will get the majority of these other guy’s supporters when they drop out but I don’t know how he figures that. I can see the Cruz supporters who are willing to go over to the Trump side do it very soon as the Rubio Bush-bump becomes apparent in the polls. After that, I don’t think Trump gets the majority of the rest, but I do think he gets enough.


17 posted on 02/22/2016 5:30:32 PM PST by Perchant
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Sadly, as the last two presidential elections demonstrate, the U.S. has more voters who are traitors than it has voters who are patriots. That does not bode well for the future of the U.S.


18 posted on 02/22/2016 5:30:58 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: ri4dc

Interesting read. I feel sorry for the young people in our country who will someday have their votes nixed out by the flood of illegals imported by the Uniparty.


19 posted on 02/22/2016 5:31:25 PM PST by Ciexyz (Vote Trump)
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To: ri4dc

Well that’s just depressing....


20 posted on 02/22/2016 5:34:23 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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