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To: Kaslin

Here, here. As Cruz was being castigated by his own party during the budget standoff, some here on FR who now want Trump were cheering him on, lauding his conservative bonafides, and calling him the anti-establishment savior. These same Freepers got the purpose of his poison pill that help defeat the Grahmnesty bill, and now use it dishonestly to paint him as pro-amnesty.


8 posted on 02/19/2016 6:55:32 AM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: cport
Among the Trump supporters is a large contingent of folks who do not embrace conservative ideals, but rather oppose conservatism. They support Trump so that they can commit character assassinations against conservatives even on formerly conservative forums like this one. Their purpose is to thwart a conservative resurgence and hijack the tea-party anti-establishment energy. Anti-establishment for genuine conservatives means to defeat the wolves in sheep's clothing especially within the Republican party and to reform the bureaucracies. For many in the Trump camp it means to destroy the conservative agenda and philosophy and replace it with nationalism. It is not liberty or justice that motivates them, but better jobs and defiance of the status quo.

In many respects they are working Hegel's dialectical materialism that is the foundation of Marx and Engles political philosophy. They see the world of republicans and democrats as the thesis and Trump as the antithesis and they hope by electing Trump a new and better synthesis will improve their lives. Many here have compared Trump to a wrecking ball, an instrument of destruction not of precision. They hope to remove the thesis to make room for the synthesis, but what would they put in place of a robust conservative rule? A virtual monarch seems to be the consensus and that is an antithesis to our founding.

Conservative philosophy sees the unchangeable virtues of liberty and justice as the goals of government. When those higher virtues are manifest then prosperity and the general equity of society will improve. It is not a battle of evolving ideals but the constant pursuit of the highest ideals.

Trump's rise is the result of failed republican opposition to socialism and ironically the socialism taught in the public schools. The electorate seem to hold the philosophy that underpins socialism but do not like the policies of socialists. It is the dialectic philosophy that makes Sanders and Trump front-runners. What is not clearly understood is that as the new philosophy is implemented the old one of liberty and justice is displaced and may not return for a very long time.

29 posted on 02/19/2016 7:23:48 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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