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Now Humana Says It Might Bail On ObamaCare
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 2/11/2016 | Staff

Posted on 02/12/2016 2:36:20 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

Health Reform: It wasn’t that long ago when ObamaCare fans were wagging their fingers at critics, saying industry profits proved that the law was working. They’ve been noticeably silent as insurers report huge losses.

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1 posted on 02/12/2016 2:36:20 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
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Humana? No, really. I might be wrong, but I thought they carried medicaid in several states.
If they jump ship, it would b a miracle. Maybe they are just sabre rattling for extra cash.
Kudos to united healthcare for their courage to stand for reality.. basic math really.


2 posted on 02/12/2016 2:46:31 AM PST by momincombatboots (Trump... The only Democrat who can win. Well played democrats. Mr single payer 2000!? Trump)
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To: IBD editorial writer

I love watching socialism fail. Don’t repeal and replace this monstrosity, or we’ll be negotiating under the gun. Just repeal Obamacare. The replacement should be freedom.


3 posted on 02/12/2016 2:47:57 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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"ObamaCare enrollees were sicker and more expensive to cover than they anticipated. And worse, they're finding that ObamaCare officials are letting too many people game the system by waiting until after they are sick to enroll for coverage, knowing they can get it guaranteed."

Who could have possibly predicted this? Oh the Humanatee!

4 posted on 02/12/2016 2:49:07 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: momincombatboots

I have United NY Regional PPO. its not bad, except instead of 20 bucks for endoscopes, which i need, it’s 80 percent coverage now.

but it’s ok because that p....k took a selfie with Ellen the D..E yesterday, and as long as the lion king is happy, that’s all that matters.

Hy ellen, NPH, obama et. al., a new world is coming in 9 months and it will hit you like a Tsunami, I hope.

F...t worship does not sit well with God. They deserve no harm, but they do not deserve the spotlight, and when they try to infect our kids...that’s bad.


5 posted on 02/12/2016 2:57:54 AM PST by dp0622
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First you should find it interesting that Aetna is now controlling comm for both companies, having released a nearly-identical statement earlier this week. If that's truly the case, then the Tower is already being hollowed out (I could make a Michael Graves joke but I'll pass).

Secondly, Humana is rattling the sword, mainly for the benefit of the Turtle, for a Senate-passable fix, particularly to the big funky H's Mediscare run rate - before Humana (and Tricare cough cough) are subsumed under the Aetna umbrella of junk insurance.

6 posted on 02/12/2016 3:04:59 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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The growing list of Insurers wanting out of ObamaCare destroys the meme that Big Insurance wrote the law. What’s in it for an industry to author a law that forces them into extinction?


7 posted on 02/12/2016 3:06:33 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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And thirdly, how did you miss incorporating Ex-KyGov. Beshear’s shameful attack on KyGov. Bevin this week, on just this very topic?


8 posted on 02/12/2016 3:06:52 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: momincombatboots

Humana’s trying to merge with Aetna. A lot of due diligence is going on, and they’re required to report how badly they’re getting screwed by Obamacare.

It’s not like they can say “look, here are our numbers showing we’re getting screwed by Obamacare. But we want to keep getting screwed because it’s our duty to as a good corporate citizen”


9 posted on 02/12/2016 3:09:07 AM PST by tanknetter
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I think Humana is in the process of being bought by Anthem, so it really won’t matter is the merger goes through.


10 posted on 02/12/2016 3:12:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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The fact that the law provided”loss vectors ‘ that would guarantee them profits no matter what.
Didn’t actually work so they’re holding out to see if they can get it back


11 posted on 02/12/2016 3:12:56 AM PST by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: StAnDeliver

I’m not sure how Beshear’s political antics relate here, other than the very general heathcare subject. Beshear is just supplementing his gubernatorial pension by creating a “charitable” organization that both he and his wife (and a bunch of his cronies) can draw salaries from, plus positioning himself for consideration as HHS Secretary in a Hillary Clinton Administration.


12 posted on 02/12/2016 3:17:05 AM PST by tanknetter
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Doing taxes this weekend. Going to see how big a fine I get for not being able to afford insurance for my wife. A pox on everyone who voted for this crap.


13 posted on 02/12/2016 3:21:29 AM PST by tbpiper
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“it will fail under its own volition” Trump 2016


14 posted on 02/12/2016 3:24:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Artie

There are two types of problems. One is people who can’t afford copays, so cut corners on prescribed care. The other is the vultures who get everything they can get their greedy hands on because “it’s covered”. Can’t see how either situation is helpful to improving medical care.


15 posted on 02/12/2016 3:26:35 AM PST by grania
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To: momincombatboots

In actuality, they were the originators of that horrible thing, or at least were the biggest supporters pushing it. All they saw was that by decree, it gave them a total captive market and all they saw were the YUGE profits such a thing would be for them.

The only problem is that a relative few jumped on the conveyor belt and even those are starting to jump off when considering all of the warts that come with it. Especially the deductibles and co-pay increases from what they had before. They still have to pay large premiums but in many cases never get to the deducible threshold before the year is out, or even worse cant afford to get there.

The insurance lobby and our government broke the system through ever increasing regulations and were standing there with the solution, again and again.

Get both out of healthcare, period and it will become what it needs to be. Free market principles work.
I used the free market cash system to have a hernia repaired.
The hospital and surgeon would have billed insurance around 60K based on my predetermination with them.
Paying cash to them would have been about 13K.

I then went to a private outpatient surgical center to inquire. By paying with cash, I was able to get the procedure for $4200.00 and that included the center facility fee, the surgeon (from the same group as the hospital) and the gas passer.

I am hearing many instances the deducible is up to 6K for Obamacare. Without the premiums and being graced with good health, did I make the right decision? An office visit to my GP is $98. Maybe once a year I see him.


16 posted on 02/12/2016 3:28:04 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Artie

No, they were a part of the plan that the government would make everyone buy it.


17 posted on 02/12/2016 3:29:45 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Pollster1

Well said.

Yes to freedom.


18 posted on 02/12/2016 3:40:54 AM PST by Jacquerie (To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: Enterprise
Who could have possibly predicted this? Oh the Humanatee!

lol

19 posted on 02/12/2016 3:48:19 AM PST by Mr Apple (google: JEFFREY EPSTEIN BILL 'TWITCHIN' HANDS CLINTON)
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To: Artie

They thought they’d make money from millions of coerced customers; one of the reasons it is failing is that younger healthy people are paying the penalty (rather than kicking in to the insurance companies), and the insurance companies are being stuck with older, sicker peoples’ bills.


20 posted on 02/12/2016 4:03:19 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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