Posted on 02/11/2016 2:56:43 AM PST by TigerClaws
Bernie Sanders’ win in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday night came with some pretty impressive footnotes:
1. His margin of victory was the highest for a non-incumbent candidate in any state since JFK.
2. He won almost every demographic group—male, female, young, old, moderate, liberal, college educated, high school-educated—with the exception of voters making more than $200,000 per year.
3. He became the first Jewish candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.
4. He became the first non-Christian candidate to win a state primary in U.S. history.
Sanders isn’t one to emphasize his religious affiliation—his political beliefs make him enough of an outsider as it is—so you won’t read much coverage about the historic nature of his win. What you will read about is how it’s going to change his primary battle against Hillary Clinton. The path to the nomination is still difficult for Sanders, and Clinton should still be considered the favorite, but winning New Hampshire in a blowout will give his candidacy a new kind of credibility and momentum. Sanders was polling below five percent nationally when he joined the race, and to come this far in such a short time, against an overwhelming favorite, is a bit staggering—so staggering that a frustrated Clinton “might “shake up her entire campaign.
The narrative has changed, which means that establishment figures are duty-bound to change it back. If you’re an avid follower of politics, you may have seen tweets like these in the aftermath of the win:
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However, that doesn’t mean they’ll overthrow the will of the people when it comes to the presidential nomination. Assuming Sanders wins the popular vote nationwide, and assuming the Superdelegates put Clinton over the top, let’s consider the consequences:
1. Sanders supporters abandon Clinton completely, cutting off a huge portion of her base.
2. Massive protests at the convention, and a party split in half.
3. Republicans have the easiest attack in presidential election history: “Her own party didn’t even want her!â€
4. The perception that Clinton is a dishonest politician grows wings, and even if people are reluctant to vote for the GOP nominee, an independent like Bloomberg could strip away an awful lot of votes.
All of this spells disaster for the Democrats. It may not be too corrupt for the DNC to imagine—they’ve got good imaginations—but it’s too transparent to execute. The winner of the delegate count from state primaries and caucuses will win the nomination, and the Superdelegates will fall in line. Just as they have in every single election since the system was implemented. (Including in 2008, when this same concern was raised—would Superdelegates cost Obama the nomination?)
Even the Democratic power structure isn’t so short-sighted that it would cut off its nose to spite its face.
The GOPe has Super Delegates too.
I think recent history shows Sanders isn’t the first non-Christian to win a primary.
The Dems have more than 15% superdelegates.
GOPe has just under 7%.
But I agree. It could be used against Trump or Cruz to bring in some Uniparty ‘unifier’ at the convention.
I don’t think it is wise to interject anything from past campaign cycles in on this one. As we have seen from everything this time around, we are not in Kansas anymore.
Never was a time in our lives that the electorate on both sides are so openly pissed. Rolling over just isn’t part of the lexicon this time. Add to it the media filter is no more with instant communication on a wide scale to a personal level.
I posted a month ago a vanity thread: Why Aren’t Democrats “Angry”?
The MSM has told us for months how mad and angry and downright unreasonable Republicans are.
Now they have Bernie to worry about!
At first I was going to “correct” you. But then...I thought about it.
Trump will beat any candidate the delusional scheming demorats put up.
Yeah...that’s not what I meant. The comment was about Bernie being the first non-Christian winning a primary for President.
and he will ignite the under 40 crowd like a nuke and it will be another squeaker.
The Free (stuff) is strong in the young, minorities, and illegally voting dreamers.
throw in enough over 40 idiots, which there are plenty of, and we have a socialist president who will raise taxes 1 trillion dollars a year, make worthless college degrees free to get, and put the nail in the coffin.
i’d rather face hillary.
Dem Convention could be a replay of Chicago 1968 given the broad demographic support for Bernie, disaffected youth, Occupy Wall Street mob proved right about corruption, etc.
Washington Examiner headline sums it up....
Washington Examiner
✔@dcexaminer
New Hampshire women choose Hell over Hillary Clinton
11:56 AM - 10 Feb 2016
Agre and that’d be great for us.
The American party system at its disgusting finest. Political party equals organized corruption. It is like every four years two major mafia gangs fight to see who gains control over the country’s treasures. Meanwhile, the American public believe they play a meaningful role in the process, which is the party’s four year theater production to quill the masses. With the aid of the Internet, the people are starting to wake up to this charade.
Also, technically Mormons aren’t Christian either. Something about a heretical concept of a Trinity.
That is why we need the Don!
And Independents aren’t Democrats either...Bernie is the one being ALLOWED to run. You would think there would be more understanding among his supports why Hillary, who has been in the party for decades, has more Superdelegate support.
case in point Barack Obama
he was some kind of black mishmash trying to claim to be a church but was in reality a political front
It would be insane, even by the corrupt standards of the Democratic National Committee, if a small group of party elites went against the will of the people to choose the presidential nominee.
This guy must be young. It's like he doesn't even know the Clintons.
Bernie will face the same fate as George McGovern. Landslide for the Republican (no matter who it is).
A lot of sources are making categorical statements that might not be accurate when looking at the details.
The GOP does not seem to have superdelegates like the Dems have. Each state’s party chair and two RNC members are unpledged by RNC rules, but the rules also seem to allow states to bind their first-ballot votes.
The Iowa GOP, I notice, has allocated all 30 national convention votes based on the presidential preference vote.
It is possible that seemingly conflicting rules will have to be resolved at the convention.
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