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Rubio Ran Into Some Granite, Had Shaky Defense Against Christie in New Hampshire Debate
Townhall.com ^ | February 7, 2016 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 02/07/2016 10:26:13 AM PST by Kaslin

First, please go read Guy's analysis about last night’s debate, which was hosted by ABC News and IJ Review. Voters will decide in New Hampshire on February 9. The whole event got off to a rocky start with moderators Martha Raddatz and David Muir botching the candidate announcements, but the debate moved forward. Hot Air's Mary Katharine Ham was also present to ask questions, which some are were the best of the night. As for Rubio, he had a rough night, especially when New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie pressed him on his record and experience. 

The introduction of the candidates at the Republican debate got awkward.Posted by POLITICO on Saturday, February 6, 2016

From ht outset, Trump made something absolutely clear to the voters; the GOP is going to win with Trump. The Iowa Caucuses drama between Sen. Ted Cruz and Dr. Ben Carson was also addressed, with the Texas senator apologizing to Carson over the mishap that seems to be blown way out of proportion.

It didn't take long for Rubio to become the target of  Gov. Chris Christie. Rubio said that President Obama is taking drastic steps to change America for the worse, and that if elected; he is going to re-embrace what makes this country great.

Rubio, Christie exchange blows at #GOPDebate

It's here that Gov. Christie said that he wakes up every morning thinking about ways to make New Jersey residents' lives better, and that he's held accountable for his actions. Sen. Rubio, who he said he likes, doesn't have that same level of accountability, being able to spin his way out of such standards through talking points. He also hit the freshman Florida senator over his absence in the Senate, especially concerning the Hezbollah sanctions act, calling it truancy not leadership. 

Rubio hit back by saying that Christie presides over a state whose credit rating has been downgraded nine times. Still, Rubio kept repeating most of his opening remarks; the optics of which were not so good.

When immigration was brought up, Sen. Cruz propose building a wall and tripling the amount of border patrol agents. He noted that once you've secured the border, we could tackle our illegal immigration problem. On the wall Cruz added, "I've got someone in mind to build it," while looking at Trump.

Rubio wants to expand the border patrol, have an entry/exit system to track the number of visa overstays, and have mandatory e-verify for businesses. Yet, the ghosts of the 2013 "Gang of 8" bill reared its head, with Christie chiming in pushing the senator if he fought for his bill. Again, Christie noted that this is a difference between a governor and a legislator, touting his record in taking on the teachers unions–and winning the fight over tenure. When Jersey Democrats wanted a tax increase and threatened a government shutdown, Christie took pride in the fact that he told them that he would go to Drumthwacket (the governor's mansion) order a pizza and watch the Mets and wait for the government to reopen because he wasn't signing an increase. The Democrats didn't shut down the government, and the tax increase wasn't passed, because they knew, according to Christie, that he would fight for what he thinks is right for the state.

Hot Air's Mary Katharine Ham asked Donald Trump whether he was closer to Bernie Sanders than the conservative movement regarding health care policy, quoting the billionaire magnate for saying that everyone's got to be covered. Oh, and the government is going to pay for it.

Trump said, "I'm closer to common sense," while saying there are so many examples of something that we could do to fix our health care system. It was a garrulous, rambling answer that said the insurance companies are getting rich on Obamacare (they're not), and that we're not going to let people die.

Cruz added that socialized medicine would hurt the American people, while adding that he would allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines. This would drive down prices since competition and choice would be expanded concerning shopping for plans in this market. Carson said he wants to establish health empowerment accounts, which would allow families to function as their own insurance provider; there would be no middlemen.

Another spat highlighted by Leah occurred between Bush and Trump over eminent domain. Trump said that it's key to provide the many services we have, and sometimes take for granted, in this country. Bush hit Trump for trying to seize a woman's home to build a parking lot for limousines.

The rest of the night was dotted with questions about what it means to be a conservative, how to fight ISIS, the possibility of redeploying forces to Libya, the selective service, bringing back waterboarding, and whether the party's positions on social issues might be too extreme.

You can re-watch the debate below since ABC News live streamed it over YouTube [debate begins at 1:17:10 mark]:

Republican Debate 2016 | FULL GOP New Hampshire Debate on ABC News

Over at RedState, Leon Wolf offers his won analysis, while saying that we should stop having Martha Raddatz moderating GOP debates; he's right.

Oh, and what about Carly Fiorina. Well, she had a date night with her husband.

Parting Thought: For those you worried about Rubio's performance, there's this from Allahpundit.

Cruz had his worst debate shortly before Iowa. Didn't hurt him.— Allahpundit (@allahpundit) February 7, 2016



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: rubio

1 posted on 02/07/2016 10:26:13 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

man, i didn’t watch it but sounds like rubio took it on the chin from pudgy.

BTW, he’s the first person i know to get weight loss surgery and pretty much look the same. poor guy.


2 posted on 02/07/2016 10:34:42 AM PST by dp0622
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To: Kaslin
I thought Cruz did quite well.

Senator Cruz is much more willing to get into specifics than is Mister Trump, who prefers generalities and "that I can tell you" statements.

There is a sincerity and a statesmanship quality about Senator Cruz that is lacking in the more salesmanlike (and perhaps more flim-flam-man-like) Mister Trump.

I'll vote for whomever wins the GOP nom, but in the primary for my state, at this point, I intend to vote for Ted Cruz.

That I can tell you.

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3 posted on 02/07/2016 10:40:42 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 02/07/2016 10:44:54 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Kaslin

Mario Robotco got exposed as the memorization machine that he is.

The sweating must have shorted out something


5 posted on 02/07/2016 10:45:47 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: dp0622

Rubio had an uncharacteristic stuck-in-a-rut couple of minutes. It reminded me Jerry Ford insisting that Poland was free. Sometimes you get get stuck in a loop. A nationally televised debate is not a good time for this to happen.


6 posted on 02/07/2016 10:46:03 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Seaplaner

So will I


7 posted on 02/07/2016 11:00:40 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: dp0622
I watched it.

My daughter had the same type of surgery and she kept her weight off. He probably did not follow the orders, who knows or did not join a after program like Weight Watchers. My daughter did and it helped her a lot.

8 posted on 02/07/2016 11:06:41 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: sphinx
You mean when he said that 0bama knows exactly what he does?

There are many freepers who say exactly the same thing.

9 posted on 02/07/2016 11:10:35 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: sphinx
A nationally televised debate is not a good time for this to happen.

That is why the MSM is pushing these debates for the GOP, while downplaying the ones for the Democrats.

10 posted on 02/07/2016 11:20:31 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: dp0622

Imagine Rubio as a bobblehead doll and Christie pummelling him so his head never stopped...that’s my recollection. Christie was spot on with his “See folks, there it is!” line, which goes right up with “there you go again”.


11 posted on 02/07/2016 11:28:39 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yes it had to happen sometime. Rubio is all heel and no boot. :-)


12 posted on 02/07/2016 11:32:15 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaslin

There’s a good article on Breitbart about Rubio and his treatment of ICE officer during Gang of 8 fiasco. I’d post it, but I don’t know how to post articles and am not up on the rules - don’t want to cause a problem for FR.

Rubio is a slimy guy. No doubt about it. But I’m sure Rush will tell us all about this next week.


13 posted on 02/07/2016 11:41:51 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Kaslin

Yes, but he kept repeating it. Brain freeze. It happens to all of us from time to time, but the timing was bad.


14 posted on 02/07/2016 12:11:49 PM PST by sphinx
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