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How pollsters got Iowa wrong: Close on the Democratic race, but all missed Ted Cruz's win.
Politico ^ | 02/02/2016 | By STEVEN SHEPARD

Posted on 02/02/2016 2:37:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/02/2016 2:37:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

When do they get it right?


2 posted on 02/02/2016 2:39:12 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 HillaryForPrison2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uhm, yea...pollsters have always gotten Iowa wrong.


3 posted on 02/02/2016 2:39:54 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Elect Senator Ted Snuz, Pope of Cuba)
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To: SeekAndFind

They had Trump winning from weeks ago


4 posted on 02/02/2016 2:41:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

First, getting the polls wrong in Iowa is something of a tradition - its NEVER right.

Second, and more importantly, when is the last time that the GOP winner in Iowa went on to get the nomination, let alone win the Presidency? I guess that we’ll have to ask President Santorum that question.


5 posted on 02/02/2016 2:42:33 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: stanne

Here’s a poll from the night before the Iowa Caucus:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3391158/posts

Trump Leads Cruz by 9 Points in Iowa on the Eve of the Caucuses — 34-25%

Donald Trump 34%
Ted Cruz 25%
Marco Rubio 14%
Ben Carson 7%
Jeb Bush 5%
Rand Paul 3%
John Kasich 3%
Chris Christie 1%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Other 2%
Undecided 3%


6 posted on 02/02/2016 2:42:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Combined with the paucity of Democrats caucusing, and the switching to Republican, one wonders if a Democrat strategy would be to have the guy they can tie up in knots over his birthplace be the "winner"?

Straight from the Commie playbook - procedural roadblocking.

7 posted on 02/02/2016 2:43:43 PM PST by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the media is sort of let down. They were hoping for a Trump win.


8 posted on 02/02/2016 2:43:48 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind

The media are far less interested in the Republican slate than the Democratic, and the less they are able to influence the results, the less they care. Expect this to be a continuing pattern.


9 posted on 02/02/2016 2:45:58 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Ancesthntr

RE: Second, and more importantly, when is the last time that the GOP winner in Iowa went on to get the nomination,

Bob Dole won Iowa in 1996 and became the nominee.

George W. Bush and Al Gore BOTH won the Iowa caucus in 2000.

John Kerry won Iowa caucus in 2004.

Barack Obama won Iowa caucus in 2008.

Those were the last times.

Conclusion: Iowa does not necessarily predict the eventual winner or loser.


10 posted on 02/02/2016 2:46:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And here’s a poll from last week

According to the highly regarded poll from the Des Moines Register, Trump 25 percent to 22 percent, withd here’s a poll from last week


11 posted on 02/02/2016 2:53:02 PM PST by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Selzer, touted as the best in the business has missed the candidate and number twice in a row. I have no doubt she is trying to get it right but her samples are not the same as actual turnout.


12 posted on 02/02/2016 2:54:13 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Ancesthntr

The only non-sitting president GOP candidate in 40 years to do so was George W. Bush.


13 posted on 02/02/2016 2:54:47 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind
In reality the caucus's mean very little except that Cruz supporters turned out in big numbers. While that looks impressive it really does not represent how the majority of Iowans will vote when election time rolls around. Since Cruz got 8 delegates and Trump & Rubio got 7 each, that means Cruz only has a 1 delegate lead at this point.

Like Mike Huckabee in 2008, it may turn out to be Cruz's only victory.

14 posted on 02/02/2016 2:55:33 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Close on the Democratic race"???

There were two widely accepted possibilities - either Sanders OR Clinton was going to win, and the race between Sanders and Clinton resulted a third, in that they essentially tied.

15 posted on 02/02/2016 2:56:21 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: Robert DeLong

He’s got Guam. I know it sounds silly, but they do have delegates.


16 posted on 02/02/2016 2:58:43 PM PST by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: Ancesthntr
George W. Bush, the only one who has won the Presidency, and then you have to go all the way back to Bob Dole. Dole won the primaries but, of course, lost in the General Election. Link
17 posted on 02/02/2016 3:03:06 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who tells the truth to a pollster?


18 posted on 02/02/2016 3:03:52 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz cheated, announced Carson’s suspension during caucus, only needed four votes per precinct to pull it off.


19 posted on 02/02/2016 3:04:49 PM PST by QuigleyDU
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, per Nate Silver, for the IA Caucus (VERY difficult to poll) they were all within the margin of error.

They didn’t get it wrong.


20 posted on 02/02/2016 3:05:05 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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