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To: The Iceman Cometh
Except in 2013 when he supported it.

Anyone paying attention when all of this was going on (like I thought we were on FR?!) should remember that Ted Cruz was the lone voice of sanity we were all thankful for then. We understood what he was doing and praised him for his brilliant tactics. Now we have FReepers against him. That only means you have left him... he has not left you.

19 posted on 01/29/2016 9:02:34 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
Anyone paying attention when all of this was going on

Well, I'm paying attention now and am curious to see if there is any evidence that Ted Cruz stated, at the time the legislation was being considered, that he intended for his amendments to be poison pills.

Ted is on the record several times talking about how he wanted immigration reform to pass.

Even including his amendments, this included amnesty but no citizenship.

I'm ready to listen to anything new that shows me he did not want the bill to pass. All the evidence I've seen indicates he wanted it to pass.

27 posted on 01/29/2016 9:05:38 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Trumpbots Vs. Cruznadians - the struggle is real.)
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To: pgyanke
Anyone paying attention when all of this was going on (like I thought we were on FR?!) should remember that Ted Cruz was the lone voice of sanity we were all thankful for then. We understood what he was doing and praised him for his brilliant tactics. Now we have FReepers against him. That only means you have left him... he has not left you.

Bears repeating. Bold emphasis is mine is mine.

41 posted on 01/29/2016 9:16:05 AM PST by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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To: pgyanke
We understood what he was doing and praised him for his brilliant tactics.
I'll speak for myself thank you. Lying for whatever reason is almost never good.

Lying is why and how he gets into these things he doesn't know how to get out of. He's having to explain his lying (what you call "brilliant tactics") almost everyday and it only sounds like more lies, to cover the lie. He admitted to lying so now no one trusts anything he says including the obvious deception of his citizenship.

48 posted on 01/29/2016 9:25:31 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: pgyanke
Anyone paying attention when all of this was going on (like I thought we were on FR?!) should remember that Ted Cruz was the lone voice of sanity we were all thankful for then. We understood what he was doing and praised him for his brilliant tactics. Now we have FReepers against him. That only means you have left him... he has not left you.

Well said!

The poison pill he proposed was denying the illegals any path to citizenship, which meant they would never become Rat voters. It killed the bill. Now the landscape has changed because the Trump supporters think that Trump is not only going to build the wall, but will deport the illegals. The reality is Trump will give legal status and probably a path to citizenship once they leave and fill out the proper paper work at the border before they re-enter the USA.

Cruz is saying he will build the wall, begin enforcement of the law and no legalized status for existing illegals.

61 posted on 01/29/2016 9:49:21 AM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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