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What if it were not really our choice at all? It's not. We can ask for many things from our doctor; we can make legitimate choices, where possible, between treatments and even the choice to refuse treatments, but if we ask to be made dead, we're really asking our doctor to make a choice to kill us or to help us to kill ourselves. In reality it is his or her choice, not ours and it comes with consequences.

That choice involves a value judgement. It requires the doctor, consciously or otherwise, to be in agreement with you or I that our lives are no longer worth living; that whatever it is that ails us, our worth as a human person is diminished to the point that "dead" is better than living.

A very interesting perspective.

1 posted on 01/29/2016 6:18:15 AM PST by wagglebee
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3 posted on 01/29/2016 6:19:27 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 01/29/2016 6:21:01 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I can only imagine the kind of person who would be attracted to a career in medicine if they were required to euthanize people, for whatever reason.


5 posted on 01/29/2016 6:24:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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You should be able to make the choice you (or your insurance company) can afford.


6 posted on 01/29/2016 6:32:40 AM PST by Wolfie
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My primary concern is that this “choice” is often not a free one. A good example is the mother of a friend of mine who is 90 and is still competent insists she is not ready to die even though she has some serious health problems but is by no way terminal. My friend has guardianship over her and thankfully she is not of the type who would go against her mother’s wishes. Her sister and other family are almost begging her to force her mother into hospice so that then if she had a medical issue she would not receive care.

I’m not really concerned about people who are terminal or at end of life deciding to refuse treatment. However when it comes to outright euthanasia it almost certainly will increase the expectation that the infirm and the inconvenient simply be made to choose to die whether they truly desire to or not.


7 posted on 01/29/2016 6:38:32 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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A euthanasia mindset seems to be common when doctors treat the elderly. My father in law was hospitalized and the doctor came to us for permission to withhold treatment and told us that feeding tubes didn't prolong life. We hadn't been there more than 10 minutes when this happened. We told him no, we expected standard treatment. (This was a large university hospital)

This started a big family argument. It was us and the grand-kids (I was surprised) against the other siblings. His own children wanted to withhold treatment.

Turns out a few days on antibiotics and he was good to go back to assisted living. He lived another two years. He was in his 90’s.

21 posted on 01/29/2016 7:12:55 AM PST by Varda
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"Should people be denied choices
at the end of life?...."




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24 posted on 01/29/2016 7:32:47 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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our lives are no longer worth living

Lebens unwertes leben ...

That concept should always be expressed in the original German.

27 posted on 01/29/2016 7:55:47 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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That is the bottom line. People can off themselves. But they can’t make others, especially healers, kill them.


33 posted on 01/29/2016 10:54:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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bttt


34 posted on 01/29/2016 1:06:42 PM PST by Dante3
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