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“Lots of Shooting” During Militia Arrests In Oregon
bearingarms.com ^ | 1/28/2016 | Bob Owens

Posted on 01/28/2016 9:00:06 AM PST by rktman

An eyewitness and his daughter have provided the first outside account of the shootout between members of the Oregon militiamen who had seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge complex and a blocking force of FBI agents who kept the vehicle from escaping an attempted traffic stop.

(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: banglist; oregon; rubyridge; standoff; waco
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Another view of the Oregon "incident".
1 posted on 01/28/2016 9:00:06 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Ah yes...the old “he reached into his waistband” excuse.


2 posted on 01/28/2016 9:02:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Like Ferguson, I’m going to wait for more facts to come out before passing judgement either way.


3 posted on 01/28/2016 9:03:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: rktman

Robert “LaVoy” Finicum shot and killed while charging police, driver says
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3389558/posts

Check out all the comments below the video linked in post 2.


4 posted on 01/28/2016 9:04:00 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dirtboy

Like Ferguson, they are very slow to emerge, and often in conflict.


5 posted on 01/28/2016 9:04:32 AM PST by Zarro (Ben Carson 2016)
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To: rktman

I think we’re all bozos on this bus.,..


6 posted on 01/28/2016 9:04:38 AM PST by brivette
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To: Zarro

Yep, which is why I wait.


7 posted on 01/28/2016 9:06:14 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: rktman
Our government antagonized these people to the point that someone had to die. Since the guy killed didn't have his weapon drawn, there was no reason to shoot him dead. And so....I don't believe the FBI....period....

I believe it was murder...

8 posted on 01/28/2016 9:06:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Agreed. They ‘needed’ to make an example of someone.


9 posted on 01/28/2016 9:08:32 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: dirtboy
Yeah, I need to suppress my own knee-jerk reaction to this incident.

However, if no long-form FBI video emerges I will suspect the worst.

10 posted on 01/28/2016 9:09:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: All

Ferguson, Occupy Wall Street, Baltimore, L.A., Milwaukee...All protests with violence, looting, burning, yet no law enforcement action...

Oregon protest...No violence, no looting, no burning, only occupation of a wildlife preserve (woods and fields) but the law enforcement kills someone...

What is wrong here????


11 posted on 01/28/2016 9:09:47 AM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: rktman

Robert Pirsig taught me

THE TESTS OF TRUTH

1. Logical consistency.
2. Agreement with experience.
3. Economy of explanation.

Law enforcement has been changing their story about this and providing long explanations.

“3. Economy of explanation” would seem to disagree with them.

“3. Economy of explanation” would be,

“He came charging at us with guns blazing, so we had to shoot him.”

They didn’t say that.


12 posted on 01/28/2016 9:10:47 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rktman

Traffic stop? Bravo Sierra.

It was an ambush of the two vehicles that they new were coming.

Waist Band? More Bravo Sierra.

No western rancher I know (and I know a LOT of them) carries a handgun in his waist band.

This administration and their agencies involved with this are zeroing in on the false narrative they intend to feed the masses as justification for this.


13 posted on 01/28/2016 9:11:03 AM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Boonie

#WhiteLivesDontMatter


14 posted on 01/28/2016 9:12:33 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: blueunicorn6

M4L truth


15 posted on 01/28/2016 9:14:54 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s implied, usless explicitly stated as not applying.)
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To: dirtboy

I’m waiting for video. And while I am 100% certain that such video exists I am also 100% certain that we’ll never see it.


16 posted on 01/28/2016 9:14:57 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Boonie

Wrong color.


17 posted on 01/28/2016 9:15:14 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Boonie

Its easy - habitually incredulous news media vs. suddenly credulous news media.


18 posted on 01/28/2016 9:15:26 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Jeff Head
Bravo Sierra

Clearly set up to be well out of town and out of sight of the media.

19 posted on 01/28/2016 9:16:46 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: MeganC; skeeter

Agreed - no video, no FBI credibility on this, since we know the video exists.


20 posted on 01/28/2016 9:21:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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