Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The F-35: America's 'everything' fighter jet is a total disaster
The Week ^ | 01/27/2016 | Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

Posted on 01/27/2016 3:01:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

F-35A Lightning IIs
1 posted on 01/27/2016 3:01:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

There is a whole slew of them at Eglin.


2 posted on 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

When someone says I have a product, device, or machine that can do everything in a given specialty, that is a MAJOR RED FLAG. There has never been such a thing, and never will be.

It was funded as political payback and/or cronyism. Gov’t at its finest.


3 posted on 01/27/2016 3:06:42 PM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Where’s the Bombs and missiles and stuff hanging off their wings?

Those pics make them look so sterile..

Multipurpose is not always the best choice or path to pursue.

It’s nice to have options. made in America preferred.


4 posted on 01/27/2016 3:08:17 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The Bradley was designed by committee too.
The F35 was supposed to, among other things, eliminate the A10 Warthog, a close with support platform loved by the troops.
The Army told the Air Force that if they didn’t want them, that the Army did. The A10 phaseout was shelved. Plenty of great A10 in action against terrorists videos are all over the internet.


5 posted on 01/27/2016 3:10:18 PM PST by Sasparilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Sunk cost fallacy... Makes people and governments do horrible things


6 posted on 01/27/2016 3:11:29 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sasparilla

I am really happy to hear the Army’s going to be allowed to take on that airframe. Purpose built to protect ground forces and expeditionary units.

Nothing is less worthless than the Air Force. Talk about an armed force in desperate search of an actual mission to fill.


7 posted on 01/27/2016 3:11:58 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

If u hang lots off stuff off of a stealthy aircraft, then it becomes an UNstealthy aircraft.


8 posted on 01/27/2016 3:12:34 PM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

(33) F-16s crashed in the first 36 months of its initial operations @ Hill AFB.


9 posted on 01/27/2016 3:13:10 PM PST by Sparky1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: txnativegop

The problem with almost every military project I’ve had experience with is that the military wants it to do everything. Take the Future Combat Systems family of vehicles. It was one of the most expensive disasters in our history. The military could not make a single decision because any decision automatically ruled out alternative options. Put the engine in the front and you limit some capabilities or make them more expensive. Put it in the rear of middle, the same thing happens. That’s just one of the technical details. There were dozens more, each of which would have limited what the vehicle could do. Shall it have treads or wheels? Should it have slab sides or sloped armor? And, then there was the idea that one vehicle base could be a main battle tank, a hospital vehicle and a command vehicle. Each of those is really a separate design.

I suspect the F-35 is the same disaster. Will it be a fighter or a bomber? Will it fly high and fast or low and slow? Make any of those decisions and you embark on a path that limits what it can do on other missions. Apparently no limitations are possible, so it gets very expensive.


10 posted on 01/27/2016 3:13:33 PM PST by Gen.Blather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RinaseaofDs

..I am really happy to hear the Army’s going to be allowed to take on that airframe...

I don’t think the Army is getting them. But, the Army saying they wanted them apparently was enough for the AF to keep them.


11 posted on 01/27/2016 3:25:19 PM PST by Sasparilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sasparilla

One of the A10 videos on weaselzappers shows an A10 coming in low and slow over a desert oasis full of terrorists firing at Marines from several hundred yards away.
The cellphone recording the airstrike recorded one Marine telling his buddies as the A10 approached that they can give their rifles a rest because this will be over ‘real quick.’ And it was.


12 posted on 01/27/2016 3:30:58 PM PST by Sasparilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
Aside from the likelihood that the F-35 might not perform anywhere near expectations, the staggering cost of the program could bury us. Just look at what has happened to the United Kingdom.

At the outbreak of Gulf War I in 1990, the Royal Air Force had 33 operational fighter squadrons. Today, the RAF fields 5 fighter squadrons and 3 fighter-bomber squadrons - a much smaller fighter fleet than the US Marine Corps by itself (4 fighter, 9 fighter/attack, 6 attack). Reality eventually struck the British right in the pocketbook. How long before we bankrupt ourselves with all of these gold-plated programs?

13 posted on 01/27/2016 3:31:59 PM PST by Always A Marine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind


14 posted on 01/27/2016 3:42:06 PM PST by Gritty (Syrians aren't Jews fleeing Nazi Holocaust but Nazis relocating from a bombed out Berlin-DGreenfield)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Looks like Boeing has been busy.


15 posted on 01/27/2016 3:47:33 PM PST by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

What few missiles and or bombs the plane is able to carry are stored internally for “stealth” of which this plane is just barely capable. Run of the mill F-16s eat it for lunch in a dog fight.


16 posted on 01/27/2016 4:09:22 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Is this the plane the Chinese have all the plans to?


17 posted on 01/27/2016 4:13:04 PM PST by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation -- FUJB!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sasparilla

weaselzappers appears to no longer exist.


18 posted on 01/27/2016 4:14:32 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Gen.Blather

It is almost a miracle when something as good, simple, and functional gets built like the A-10 Warthog.


19 posted on 01/27/2016 4:17:04 PM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Flick Lives

-It is almost a miracle when something as good, simple, and functional gets built like the A-10 Warthog.-

Most likely that happened because the Air Force so badly did not want the weapon they drove Fairchild Republic out of business so they could stop buying them. Therefore, they probably did not interfere in the design because they hated it so much. (The Air Force wanted to spend its money on sexier, faster and higher flying planes. Supporting ground troops was not sexy or important to them.)


20 posted on 01/27/2016 4:34:05 PM PST by Gen.Blather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson