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Trump's Support for Ethanol Is Bad for Taxpayers and Their Cars
The National Review ^ | January 21, 2016 | Jillian Kay Melchior

Posted on 01/21/2016 2:17:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No matter - it might get donnie more votes.


21 posted on 01/21/2016 2:48:05 AM PST by libbylu (Trump's supporters have the same brain disease as Hillary's supporters)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just don’t want to have to put the fecal crap into my cars tank!


22 posted on 01/21/2016 2:48:51 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 4rcane

We have no shortage of oil. There’s a glut if you hadn’t notice... In fact our own oil producers could use more demand right now. Our own oil is much cheaper than ethanol and contains significantly more energy per gallon. Everyone mileage would go and it would cost less and none of it would have anything to do with OPEC.


23 posted on 01/21/2016 2:52:59 AM PST by DB
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To: Leto

Do you have any idea how many Iowa jobs are on the line? I don’t agree with the subsidy, but; we can’t kill these jobs before we shrink the FED bureaucracy and before we create new jobs. We damn sure do not need more living on Gov programs. I do not even notice my money going there as much as I see it going to state, fed and other gas taxes.


24 posted on 01/21/2016 2:53:21 AM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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Alternatives to fuel are a good thing that the government should invest in , because buying Saudi oil is what fuels terrorism.


25 posted on 01/21/2016 2:54:13 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: RC one
Agricultural price support is good for America

Yes it is.

Ethanol in yer gas tank AINT!

I don't mind the subsidy, as much as I do having to put it in my car!!!!

That's the TRUTH! You've said so yourself many times now.

Do you know which stations sell sober gasoline? Very few, and we all know where they are.

26 posted on 01/21/2016 2:54:16 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: 4rcane
Basically he's pro-American industry.

Trump is supporting crony capitalists against Americans, who PAY HIGHER GAS PRICES to support these companies through ethanol quotas. Ethanol also damages engines.

Ethanol Companies Get Boost From U.S. Quotas

Anything to screw OPEC who are ripping Americans off

Fracking "screws" OPEC and doesn't cost taxpayers a dime.

Aside from Cruz, Trump agrees with all the other candidates in the race, and every candidate who has come before, who have supported ethanol subsidies to buy votes in Iowa.

27 posted on 01/21/2016 2:55:00 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The irony here is that Cruz is driving around Iowa promising to wreck their economy:

If the mandate is phased out, the farmers will go bust.

Cruz couldn't care less. Goldman Sachs will take care of him.

28 posted on 01/21/2016 2:55:35 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

Hell the only good thing Obama has said i genuinely agreed on him was that America needs to invest in alternative fuels so we could stop buying oil from the Saudis


29 posted on 01/21/2016 2:57:43 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: RC one
I just bought a gallon of milk for $2.oo and a pound of deli muenster cheese for $3.99. I bought 5 lbs of smoked ham for $20. I eat more meat than a puma. 2 loaves of quality multi grain bread for $4 and a six pack of 120 oz diet mountain dews for $2.00. Don’t tell me food is inflationary in America. We are the best fed country in the world.

And prices would be lower without ethanol quotas.

So we should thank Trump for supporting crony capitalism?

Thank you Trump for trying to make gas prices higher. May we have another subsidy?

30 posted on 01/21/2016 2:58:35 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Paying a higher price for fuel so we can stop funding states that prop up jihadis is a sacrifice we should bare


31 posted on 01/21/2016 3:00:06 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: RC one

It might be nice to have our oil producers be profitable too. That industry is crashing right now. It also supplies jobs and national security. More demand would help them out.

Through government you pick winners and losers. It is whomever has the best lobbiest and on goes the sewers of Washington. How about letting us consumers decide what we want to buy?

You talk about depression era laws to help farmers, that was the biggest business that employed the most people back then. Not anymore. Not even close. Things change.


32 posted on 01/21/2016 3:01:40 AM PST by DB
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To: The Right wing Infidel

So exactly how much oil to we buy form Saudi Arabia, virtually none. If you use more expensive fuels here you are only damaging consumers here that end up have a lower standard of living as a result while the rest of the world continues on using cheap oil and benefiting from it.

Think these things through.


33 posted on 01/21/2016 3:04:55 AM PST by DB
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To: SubMareener
Oh! The horror of it! Donald Trump is advocating following the laws made by Congress! This is definitely not Conservative! ;-)

Yay! Trump is going along to get along with Congress!

Yay! Trump is an outsider!

Yay! Trump supports ethanol quotas for special interests!

Yay! Trump is a "conservative"!

Yay! Yay! Yay!


34 posted on 01/21/2016 3:06:09 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SubMareener

Well Cruz was advocating changing the law, not expanding its use. Not even remotely the same thing. At least be honest.


35 posted on 01/21/2016 3:06:29 AM PST by DB
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To: Helicondelta
Not necessarily.

If the corn belt would invest in power generation by an ethanol burning engine, it would be Win Win Win!

Not just for our beloved farmers, but from the nation they would be supplying power to from a renewable resource!

Plus it would be even ANOTHER source local jobs!

Plus a source for state revenue!

No longer dependent on a handout, but giving a hand up and walking upright.

36 posted on 01/21/2016 3:06:47 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: The Right wing Infidel

“Paying a higher price for fuel so we can stop funding states that prop up jihadis is a sacrifice we should bare”

That makes no logic sense at all.


37 posted on 01/21/2016 3:08:26 AM PST by DB
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To: Helicondelta
If the mandate is phased out, the farmers will go bust.

LOL!

The Trump team thanks you for supporting higher gas prices to get Trump elected.

Yay!


38 posted on 01/21/2016 3:11:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: RC one

Branstad, the governor, convinced Trump apparently on a one on one, that ethanol on the whole is good for the country.

Now, I don’t know where it stands now as being subsidized. I heard that it is not subsidized any more, but the mandates are, ie that a certain percentage of ethanol needs to be in our gas.

What bugs me, is why don’t WE have a choice? I mean a legitimate affordable choice? I can buy gas without ethanol, but it’s almost double the price. This is not fair or right.

So, now I’m leasing a car, and I don’t care what gas is going in it.


39 posted on 01/21/2016 3:13:36 AM PST by nikos1121 (December 25, 2016 will be the merriest Christmas of all for me.)
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To: RC one

“Agricultural price support is good for America.”

No, what is good for america is giving $$$ to ME !! I can be your Dictator


40 posted on 01/21/2016 3:13:43 AM PST by DanZ
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