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To: Enlightened1; elcid1970; House Atreides; John Valentine; dschapin; Yosemitest; txrangerette; ...
In the 2011 conversation, Cruz says the constitution gives citizenship to someone born in the country. It is the anchor babies of illegals he is speaking of, that is the basis of that conversation. Read the constitution yourself, it is there and Cruz says it is there. It is section 1 of the 14th amendment - a person born here is a citizen.

He goes on in that conservation to say closing the border is the way to stop anchor babies. He does not want them to have citizenship so close the border to stop it.

In the film it flips to, he says he is against citizenship for anchor babies and refers to that 2011 conversation film where he says close the border to stop the automatic citizenship of babies born here of illegals. If he had flipped on this, he would not have said he spoke about it in 2011.

The two films do not contradict each other but the way they have the film flipping, it is making people believe he changed.

Also, Cruz is NOT speaking of a person born outside the US to an American citizen (his citizenship). He is speaking about illegals having anchor babies born in this country.

For those of you jumping on this to discredit Cruz, you will stoop to anything you can to warp something so it looks like Cruz has flip flopped.

44 posted on 01/19/2016 12:43:13 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today))
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To: Marcella
The 14th Amendment states All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

The sticky part is the "under the jurisdiction of". That eliminates children of foreign nationals who have not sworn allegiance to America and thus retaining their foreign citizenship, their children would inherit the nationality of their father/parents at birth and be under the jurisdiction of that foreign nation.

Consider that the 1866 Civil Rights statute, enacted two years before the 14th Amendment and largely the work of Howard and Trumbull, began with this statement: "All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power . . . are citizens." That clearly excludes aliens. But that phrase was replaced with the more ambiguous "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the amendment. Why? Did the amendment mean something broader? It would seem so.

This clause represented Congress's reversal of a portion of the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision which had declared that African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship.

The Civil Rights Act of 1866 had already granted U.S. citizenship to all persons born in the United States "not subject to any foreign power". The 39th Congress proposed the principle underlying the Citizenship Clause due to concerns expressed about the constitutionality of the Civil Rights Act during floor debates in Congress.[1][2] The framers of the Fourteenth Amendment sought to entrench the principle in the Constitution in order to prevent its being struck down by the Supreme Court or repealed by a future Congress in other words to avoid disenfranchisement of the American Americans.[2][3]

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422894/birthright-citizenship-fourteenth-amendment-constitution-supreme-court

52 posted on 01/19/2016 1:09:41 PM PST by JayGalt
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To: Marcella

“The two films do not contradict each other but the way they have the film flipping, it is making people believe he changed.”

This.

Good post.


67 posted on 01/19/2016 3:14:54 PM PST by jeffersondem
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To: Marcella
I assume you are addressing this video:

That video is PROOF of just HOW FAR they will go to TWIST the truth INTO A LIE.

So, in response to your comment: I don't deny that about the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

I agree with that.
That IS the way to stop it.
One thing you must understand, is on of the latest changes to the Naturalization Law, brought about during the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" capitulation to the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF, his IRANIAN SPY, and the DemocRATS in congress. Now you understand WHY the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF, his IRANIAN SPY, and the DemocRATS, have been IMPORTING so many ILLEGAL children without their parents INTO the United States.

But TED CRUZ has NOT 'flip-flopped',
73 posted on 01/20/2016 7:22:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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