Donald Trump branded a 'fool', 'buffoon' and 'wazzock' by British MPs

abc.net.au ^ | January 19, 2016 | Meredith Griffiths

[the scotsman]

The UK has a conservative govt, conservatism is rising, UKIP is the biggest new party, and we are going to leave the EU this or next year.

Not as socialist as people think. There remains a core of silent majority.

[the scotsman]

Like that Brit J Edgar Hoover.

[the scotsman]

Says the man from a nation with more serial killers than all other nations combined. Says a man from a nation with the world’s biggest porn and child porn industry.

And whilst the awful Fifty Shades is British, the film version is American.

[kabar]

The fact of a debate and that millions of Brits are discussing this would suggest otherwise.

The "debate" was mandatory given the number of names on the petition.

No, they aren’t. PC stupidity yes. 96% of the UK is non-Muslim. 92% of the UK is white European.

From the CIA factbook.

Ethnic groups: white 87.2%, black/African/Caribbean/black British 3%, Asian/Asian British: Indian 2.3%, Asian/Asian British: Pakistani 1.9%, mixed 2%, other 3.7% (2011 est.) Note the 92% figure for whites is the 2001 census

Religions: Christian (includes Anglican, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist) 59.5%, Muslim 4.4%, Hindu 1.3%, other 2%, unspecified 7.2%, none 25.7% (2011 est.)

These data reflect the 2011 census in the UK. Updated information from various sources:

There was a dramatic 1.7million fewer people who identified themselves as being part of the Church of England between 2012 and 2014, and a million more Muslims, according to a survey from the NatCen Social Research institute.

Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech

[dfwgator]

The trend is not our friend.

[kabar]

Trump was a private citizen when he made those remarks. He wasn’t a leader of the country. He is entitled to his own opinion, which I said I disagreed with. It is not a game changer for me.

[the scotsman]

So even if we agree that’s right (and not all British people sign the census, many don’t) then at least 88/89% of Brits are white or part-white. I am quoting figures done by universities, who take into account the hundreds of thousands or millions of white Britons who fall through the census crack.

Taking into account everyone, my 92% isn’t far off.

[MikeSteelBe]

“And I label all British politicians “cuckolds”...”

And I do not care what a British dicksplash thinks of our American Donald Trump.

[Savage Beast]

I’d hate to see it happen, but if people are determined to commit suicide there’s not much you can do about it.

[kabar]

Taking into account everyone, my 92% isn’t far off.

You are using the 2001 Census figures. I am using the 2011 figures. I am sure that the number has dipped below 87% today given the continued mass infusion of immigrants from Muslim countries and Africa.

Immigration statistics show record level of UK net migration – as it happened

The number of babies to foreign-born mothers last year rose slightly to 27 per cent of the total - 188,000 of the 695,000 live births, the ONS said.

In total, 636,000 migrants came to live in Britain in the 12 months to the end of March, a year-on-year rise of 84,000, while 307,000 emigrated.

Last year the number of non-Britons increased just over seven per cent from 4,987,000 to 5,344,000, which means one in 12 of the UK population is a non-British national, compared with one in 20 a decade earlier.

I am trying to understand your point. Are you disputing that the demographics of the UK are changing significantly with non-whites increasing and native born whites decreasing as a percentage of the population? Do you admit that there has been significant racial conflict for decades in the UK?

Demography is destiny.

Migrants in the UK, an Overview:

Between 1993 and 2013 the foreign-born population in the UK more than doubled from 3.8 million to around 7.8 million. During the same period, the number of foreign citizens increased from nearly 2 million to nearly 5 million.

In 2013, the UK population was 12.5% foreign-born (up from 7% in 1993) and 7.9% foreign citizens (up from 4% in 1993).

Migrants change UK forever: White Britons 'will be in minority by 2066

[Palio di Siena]

i am comfortable with my understanding of history.
just remember which hand you’ll need to use to wipe your ass when the muzzies are done with you.

[IMR 4350]

Obama was also a private citizen when he first spouted his Marxist beliefs.

[kabar]

Give me a break. Trump is no Obama.

Trump is taking lots of grief for his temporary ban on Muslims immigrating to the US--even from outside the country. He has called the threat from ISIS aa radical Islamic terrorism, something Obama and the Dems refuse to utter. Are you saying that Trump is going to adopt Obama's policies on Muslims?

[the scotsman]

So am I, or at least more recent figures from university and other demographic studies. As I said, census numbers cannot be taken as gospel.

No, there has been a change, my point is very simple: the vast majority of the UK, despite the hype, is still white European. Blacks remain the largest UK minority, not Muslims as US myth has it. The biggest UK influx in recent years was the white E. European influx due to relaxing of EU rules. Poles most notably.

The UK remains 96% non Muslim, 90%+ white. Three parts of the UK remain with small ethnic pops, and very small Muslim communities.

[the scotsman]

Good for you, I’d be embarrassed at such ignorance.

Perhaps the Muslim President your nation voted in, could tell me which hand. Or you could go to Dearborn and ask them. Meanwhile, I will ask my white, upper class, part-Jewish, fully British prime minister and see if he knows.

[the scotsman]

The Muslim birthrate in the UK has been high, but several studies predict, again far from the US hype, it is and will drop, from 2.8 to 2.2 to 2.0 by 2050-2060. If not earlier. That would bring it in line with native rates, or other ethnic rates.

Every serious study on the UK shows that the Muslim population will never even reach 10%, let alone this drivel we will be a white minority. There has been a huge ethnic influx to the UK since 1948, yet nearly 70 years later, the UK remains VERY white. 90% at least of the UK is still white.

Americans generally are ignorant of the history of UK immigration, as if all ‘Muzzies’ and non whites all turned up one morning in 1995 or 2000.

[IMR 4350]

How is Obama’s and Trump’s self censorship towards offending muslims any different?

[kabar]

I guess it depends on what the definition of white is. British whites are fleeing the country and are being replaced by Poles and others from the EU. You can minimize what is happening demographically in the UK, but the reality is far different. Are you a member of the SNP?

D3enial just ain't a river in Egypt.

[kabar]

Trump is not self-censoring. He is attacking Muslim immigration and radical Islamic terrorism. How is that being like Obama?

[the scotsman]

How very dare you.
I wouldn’t vote them even for money.

I am not in denial, just trying to make sense of the UK to be white minority and run by Muslims myth. I haven’t denied the changes, you cant deny facts, what I am doing is trying to point out such changes are not nation-changing and that the UK immigrationally and ethnically has been changing for 70 years. Yet remains very heavily white British/white Irish/white European. And all but one ethnic group have assimilated peacefully.