Iranian coup: A tale of two U.S. Navy vessels

Central View ^ | January 17, 2016 | William Hamilton, J.D., Ph.D.

[RWGinger]

The Iranians gave the boats back AFTER they had time to go over them .
So BO and Kerry asked the Iranians to help?arresting our sailors is a strange way of offering assistance. Must be a muzzle thing

[Southack]

Don't be dumb. Recognize a cover story when you see it.

Riverine craft are literal boats. They don't patrol blue water.

On the other hand, they do extractions for our SpecOps.

Now, if a pair of riverine boats are on patrol and 1 boat breaks down, the other boat tows it to safety (e.g. out of Iranian waters).

...but...if they are on point waiting on an extraction, then the 2 boats will sit still. No towing.

Those 2 riverine boats transited blue water, sat still on point, and were waiting because their mission was to extract our boys from Farsi Island (probably HALO entry onto the Island).

Since both boats sailed under their own power when the Iranians later released them, it is doubly safe to say that they had no mechanical breakdown.

Nope.

They were waiting on SEALs or NERT to exfiltrate Farsi Island, and they sat there until the bitter end, choosing capture rather than evasion, giving our guys the best possible chance of extraction.

Yes, our sailors on those 2 riverine probably did cry when captured by the Iranians, but not because they were captured...but because they saw something awful happen to the guys they were supposed to extract.

Later, there will be a "training accident" somewhere else in the world to explain the deaths of our boys who died on Farsi Island this week...probably a dozen or so lost.

Pretty dang sad.

[Yaelle]

On one of the Travis McGee threads yesterday, one thing stood out to me as making sense: if we get the boats back and the gps / electronic info is all scrubbed, or if we don’t get the boats back at all, then this could have happened in international waters. We would have no way of knowing. Also, if these sailors are all sworn to secrecy.

Definitely a setup. We can’t say by whom but the admin is today crowing about how Iran suddenly stopped wanting to make nukes now. Mm,hmmm, sure....

[gaijin]

Yeah, it sounds like he heard about the break-down (or whatever), and with the upcoming SOTU he said to himself,

"I'll turn these US military lemons into some diplomatic lemonaide, and I'll serve it up at the SOTU..!!!"

"I'll say, George Bush made ENEMIES of the Iranians, who still burn him in effigy, and just LOOK...! Now I have them RESCUING US military people..! It's like the Iranians are the new Jose's at my White House car-wash --shine it up, pretty..! FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION, BOOM..!!"

It sounds like he was dreaming the wet-dream of an academic, and instead the Iranians took him to school and passed him around the cell-block like a cheap pack of smokes.

[OwenKellogg]

Riverine craft are literal boats.

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Literally?

[Yaelle]

I would like to hear more about your scenario. Who would “our boys” have been that were being exfiltrated?

[Snickering Hound]

The Iranians gave the boats back AFTER they had time to go over them . So BO and Kerry asked the Iranians to help?arresting our sailors is a strange way of offering assistance.

Or some Revolutionary Guard commander stuck out in the middle of Farsi island takes the initiative and intercepts and captures some Americans that strayed in range thinking he's going to get promoted and get the hell off Farsi.

Meanwhile, Obama is planning his new Iranian peace wing of this library and the mullahs are picking out which marble is going into the bathroom of the new jet he's buying with this windfall when this blows up.

The mullahs scream at the Farsi commander to let them go so they can get their new toys on schedule and for the 1st time ever Iranians let Americans leave in their own boats with even a full tank of gas for their trouble.

[Southack]

Littoral

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[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

The look away from.the camera says F-You to.Iran

[libstripper]

Looks like this was a pre-arranged setup. The Iranians wanted one extra drop of humiliation and especially wanted to humiliate the U.S. Navy, that they’re never been able to touch until now. Obola wanted the civilian hostages back. Hence, a corrupt deal: Obola would send the boats on a sitting duck mission where they’d be captured, their crews publicly humiliated and then returned; in return, the civilian hostages would be returned. The boats’ OIC gave it away by putting such a happy face, sort like the day the hogs et his sister.

[P-Marlowe]

The commanding officer of these vessels surrendered his command to a foreign power.

Is his first name Mohammed?

[cva66snipe]

“Ran out of gas.” Riiiiiiiight!

Close. Contaminated Fuel. If this is the same boat I looked up it's a twin engine boat. If one is down due to that engines failure it should in theory limp in on one. So what would disable both engines putting a boat Dead In Water? A fuel issue is all I can think of mechanically unless there was some shared electronic control. The most common fuel issue is contamination. Although they run on DFM, JP5, or JP8, it seems there has been some bio-fuel testing as well.

[BenLurkin]

#bringbackourboats

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

I have bad gas right now! But I wouldn’t surrender to Iranians because of it!

[MurrietaMadman]

why would the U.S. call Iran for help?

That guiding principle of this administration...

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

Or is it, never allow an opportunity to screw America not develop?

Maybe they just had a couple of boats to give away.

[Future Snake Eater]

If there’s a violation of Iranian territorial waters, I could see it going to the White House pretty quickly.

[batterycommander]

Obowma should have sent over the entire fleet of LCS boats. They prolly would have had mechanical difficulties and are truly worthless.

[paolop]

One obvious explanation would be an Iranian jamming of GPS and perhaps radio communications. THE GPS jamming would pemit false signals towards a nearby Iranian navy vessel. Iranian rational would be a show of strength for internal consumption (since population will not notice the freeing of funds). US rational is communication security.

[WENDLE]

WTF!! Are you kidding me? Obama sicked the Iranians on our men? That IS TREASON!! Where is the congress?? This makes me sick@!!