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KIBBE: Trump Is Not The Answer
Conservative Review ^ | 1/12/2016 | Matt Kibbe

Posted on 01/12/2016 11:43:48 AM PST by TBBT

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To: SteveSCH

The refusal to give up his nonsense air of “objectivity” is really what annoys me the most, even as he waxes hysterical over Breitbart’s reporting practices.


41 posted on 01/12/2016 12:43:50 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Cold Heat; All
"True that, but that is a superficial emotional reaction, not a conservative one."

The problem is that the term ”conservative” is wrongly used as a synonym for ”constitutional” these days. And imo, possibly with the exception of Harvard Law School-indocrinated Cruz, even the ”conservative” presidential candidates are evidently clueless about the federal governments constitutionally limited powers.

On the other hand, Trump has distinguished himself from the career politicians as a very successful, self-made businessperson who is actually campaigning against the corrupt Washingnton cartel.

42 posted on 01/12/2016 12:44:19 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Cold Heat

Don’t understand your point, but sounds bitter to me. I actually attended a TRUMP event. There were smart people and they love their country. No mob....


43 posted on 01/12/2016 12:49:58 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: MNJohnnie

It does occasionally strike me: should I pay attention to this fight, or simply ignore it - just voting as I already know I will? The next year will be full of sound & fury signifying nothing save the final outcome, and my part therein is already set: vote in the primary for Cruz, vote in the general for Trump (the already-chosen actions for the by-far most likely scenarios). So either I just move on with life save for a couple half-hours where I actually have to vote, or hang around watching the battle purely for entertainment reasons.

Coke will do, Virgil’s root beer if you’ve got it, bourbon if you’re so inventoried (I’m rather enjoying the hard-to-get White Owl Whiskey of late).


44 posted on 01/12/2016 12:51:35 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Timber Rattler; All

You want me to ban all who don’t agree with Levin? Rush? Malkin? Hannity? Other notables? Ban all who think Cruz may be ineligible? How about just banning all Trumpsters?

Bloody Tuesday?

Or should we just let it play out?

Personally, I want to see Cruz or Trump win the presidency. I tend to favor Cruz, but I won’t be upset if Trump gets it.

Go, Cruz, go!!

Go, Trump, go!!

Either way, we win, they lose.


45 posted on 01/12/2016 12:52:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: Amendment10

Methinks the problem is nobody working within the system can see any way whatsoever to go from what we’ve got to nothing beyond what the Constitution allows - at least not without causing everything from absolute stonewalling by the vast majority in Congress, to outright riots nationwide. They may _believe_ such simple things as “don’t spend more than revenue”, but even gentle threats of slight cuts in the rate of increase regularly garner hysteria & hyperventilation on the part of most pol & pundits. Only Trump, having real-world experience leading multi-billion-dollar organizations to success, understands the imperative & power of the executive to say “I don’t care what you’ve _authorized_ me to spend, if we don’t have the money we’re not spending it!”


46 posted on 01/12/2016 12:56:05 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Amendment10

Sure, and so did Ross Perot and president Teddy Rooseveldt.

Perot, who I nearly voted for, would have been a utter disaster and Roosevelt for all his anger over the corruption of the time, usurped Constitutional powers that are still used today.

Every bad precedent leads to another and another and another.

I see trump as a likely exploiter of all these past mistakes, and of absolutely no help in returning us to a Constitutional Republic.

That’s my view. I came to it after the 2012 debacle and decided then that it was a imperative to change course or watch it go off the rails.

Trump is not a course change. He’s more of a political pacifier, for the outraged voter.


47 posted on 01/12/2016 12:58:02 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ilgipper

Levin has been extremely positive about Trump. He has called him out on a few things, but he’s as anti-establishment as it gets and seems to be welcoming the Trump movement.


Not lately. He’s been 100% Cruz and taking a lot of veiled shots at Trump. All while giving Cruz a 100% pass on his debatable actions & votes .


48 posted on 01/12/2016 1:00:01 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Blue Turtle

Mob in the context I used it in means the masses or group think.

Not the broken window fire starters..


49 posted on 01/12/2016 1:00:26 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ctdonath2

Here I have this nice Blanton Original I think you might find drinkable.

I find myself there too. I find myself paying less attention except for the entertainment value. Today’s double whammy of Sanders leading Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire plus Moveon.org endorsing Sanders, was a particularly potent dose of schadenfreude.

However I suspect that will be quickly dulled by tonight’s helping of Obama’s signature trite tiresome bloviating at the State of the Union address. Given how in love with the sound of his own voice Obama is, I suspect tonight will be the longest State of the Union address in history.

How clever of the GOP to schedule a Debate for Thursday. At least the dullness of the Obama speech will be quickly pushed out of the new cycle.


50 posted on 01/12/2016 1:06:58 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: MNJohnnie

Oh! Quite drinkable indeed, I expect. Might you be in the vicinity of Atlanta?

Yes, I’m still trying to absorb the moveon.org endorsement (as non-sequitur as, say, G.H.W.Bush endorsing Carson).

I’ll skip the State of the Onion, reading the transcript if word is something worth knowing verbatim is said (unlikely, but if there is it’s probably re: gun control). Will skip the GOP debate too; like I said, voting for Cruz (I expect Georgia will overwhelmingly pick Trump and I’m OK with that).


51 posted on 01/12/2016 1:19:38 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the week or the timid. - Ike)
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To: ctdonath2; All
”They may _believe_ such simple things as ”don’t spend more than revenue”, . . .”

Are you aware not only of Congresss constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, but that a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes in the name of state power issues, basically any issue that Congress cannot justify under its Section 8-limited powers?

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The first step towards restoring the constitutional republic is for patriots to get their state lawmakers up to speed with the idea that corrupt Congress has been stealing state revenues by means of unconstitutional federal taxes and put a stop to it. Then the individual states will be able to use increased revenues establish their own, customised, 10th Amendment-protected social spending programs as the Founders had basically expected them to do.

In fact, regarding federal domestic spending, consider that the US Mail Service (1.8.7) is one of the very few domestic spending programs that the feds acually have the constitutional authority to run.

Also consider that disgruntled taxpayers of a given state can recall bad-apple state lawmakers as opposed to having to wait until the next election to kick bad-apple federal lawmakers out of office for mismanaging taxpayer dollars.

52 posted on 01/12/2016 1:52:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: TBBT

I bet something that would drive liberals bonkers is:

“All we are saying...is give Trump a chance!”


53 posted on 01/12/2016 2:35:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: TBBT
You and I share the same view on Trump. There is too many red flags when it comes to him. I do believe Trump deeply loves his country but I think he will continue the trend of bringing more and more power to the Executive Branch.

However, I feel I'm watching a wave I cannot stop. If Trump wins the nomination, and it looks like he will for now, I believe he will be elected. We hear and see some of his antics but your talking about an electorate that elected BHO despite ties to Ayres, Wright, “first time I've been proud of my country” ect. And you have a scared and angry electorate, rightly so, looking for someone who speaks their language. Trump does that, for now. The Trump phenomenom is a result of what people like BHO, Hillary, McConnell, Ryan, ect. ect. have created. Them, along with CNN, NYT, ABC News..

If he wins, I hope he proves me wrong about him. But I had the same ill feeling watching my fellow Americans fall for “Hope and Change.”

54 posted on 01/12/2016 2:40:03 PM PST by LMAO (#BlackLivesMatterWhenItsForPoliticalPoints)
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To: Cold Heat
Trump is not a course change. He’s more of a political pacifier, for the outraged voter.

I'm a Trump supporter, and I like to have honest discussions with those who disagree.

If you decide to be a condescending twit (as evidenced by your comment) you make it impossible to do so.

55 posted on 01/12/2016 5:54:28 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: TBBT
On Barnes & Nobles page of books titled Hostile Takover, Kibbe's book is the nineteenth.
56 posted on 01/12/2016 7:17:58 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("We need someone to lead us back to the standard of excellence we once epitomized." --Donald Trump)
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To: gogeo

That’s my opinion. I don’t believe it to be condescending.

Live with it..

signed.....twit


57 posted on 01/12/2016 10:40:18 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: ctdonath2

Actually yes I do live in the Atlanta region.

I am going to follow your lead. While I find this all very entertaining, there are things I should be doing other then getting caught up in the minute by minute minutia of a political campaign season


58 posted on 01/13/2016 5:20:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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