Posted on 01/09/2016 9:34:59 AM PST by Alexander Reagan
For the first hundred years of the USA, reps served ONE term and then returned to their normal life. There were no Dingells who served 60 years.
All this seniority krap takes equal representative rights from the people and gives it to states that send the same old warhorses, like McCain, to DC.
The Congress is a piggy bank for the members. They propose ‘milk laws’ that target specific businesses and then raise money from those businesses to change or not pass the law.
The rapist and his enabler are in the process of selling her Presidency now with all the foreign donations to their ‘foundation’.
Had we not had the FDR experience, the mulatto would be well on his way to a 3rd term and the complete destruction of representative gov’t.
Most state legislatures are republican and more responsive to the voters that the DC clowns. A meeting of the States to propose and pass Amendments to the Constitution completely bypasses DC.
This is the protection the Framers gave us to check an out of control federal monster.
I do not believe we will get a congress to abide by the constitution. Nor the judiciary and to an extent the executive. It is not the constitution per-say that is defective rather the people in government are defective. A a supporter of the CoS my objective is to arrest the proclivities of our presently evil government by arresting it’s ability to impose its will upon us. Granted this is an ambitious goal. I think our first attempt at a CoS should focus on the repeal of the 17th amendment. And no I do not fear a runaway CoS. I believe the ratification process reasonabably protects us against that. I do fear our runaway government. A government that is on the cusp of dictatorship as I type this.
We are in the midst of such a runaway convention right now with the Democrats and the Republicans, the Court and the President and the Congress changing the Constitution on their whims. We might be able to get the Constitution back with the States Convention. The Constitution is not in force even now. Some portions of it seem to be still observed due to political and relative force considerations but will prove to be just as evanescent as the clauses guaranteeing religious freedom and states rights as these conditions are changed.
If things are so far gone, so fragile, that an Art V convention is going to ruin the Constitution then there is really nothing to lose.
There is nothing to lose at this point. Repealing the 16th and 17th amendment at an Art V convention would be the best thing that could happen to the republic.
Here here!! The left will howl because they intuitively know that one amendment forever changed our Republic into a Federal Democracy. Give the Senate back to the States instead of the mob. Local elections will be of utmost importance again.
If it’s repealed by the majority of the states, it becomes law. The SC will have no say in it.
Another GOOD reason to move them out of Washington. Most folks are too busy trying to make a living to spend the money and time to go to Washington.
If Sen Schmuck or Rep Graft were sitting in a street level glass office, he could SEE the discontent in the public, his employers.
Eliminate all the time(money) wasted in travel. Remove the lobby money, and replace it with torches and pitchforks. He will get the message....
If I want to keep my congress critter, I should be able to vote for him or her as many times as I like, your tantrum notwithstanding. Just because you can't get your guy in there doesn't mean you can stomp your feet, throw a temper tantrum and change the rules.
In 2000, I ran for State office in New Mexico. Of course, I wanted to win, but to tell the truth, I had other motives. In this case, we had been trying to unseat the Speak of the House for a number of years, and every time, we failed. We realized this was due to the fact that, although we ran candidate after candidate against him, the truth was that the outlying district incumbents never had any competition. As a result, they would pour campaign resources into the Speaker's camapaign, and would stump non-stop for the guy.
So, in 2000, we wised up. We didn't stomp our feet and throw a tantrum to change the rules. We got busy. We made sure that every single incumbent in outlying districts had competition. That way, they had to spend their cash and time on their own resources. And it worked. We unseated the Speaker.
Here's an idea: start thinking outside the box. Figure out a way to institute voter initiated term limits, instead of stifling my free speech just because you can't get your guy in there.
And there you have your answer. For the first 100 years of the USA, serving in Congress was a lot like serving jury duty today. It was never meant to be a career, but it was one's duty to serve. Look at what George Washington said about serving.
So, instead of stifling my freedom of speech, why not go after the $$$? Reduce Congress' wages to minimum wage. Make them enroll in Obammycare, and force them into regular retirement accounts like the rest of us schlubs. Take the incentive out of serving, and you'll suddenly find those critters that are there only for their own reasons term limit themselves.
Most state legislatures are republican and more responsive to the voters that the DC clowns.
And you trust them totally and completely, and can tell me that there is absolutely zero chance they will cave to the left? If you really believe that, you don't have a clue as to how the left works.
This is the protection the Framers gave us to check an out of control federal monster.
You are correct - and they did so in a time when there were actually opposing parties - not the uniparty we have today.
Yep a lot of people confuse the 2. This would be a states thing. Its constitutional. A certain number of states must approve anything the determine to vote on. Its not a congressional constitution amendment.
Complete and utter rubbish. The fact of the matter is that we live in a constant state of a “runaway convention.” In fact, just 1 week ago the executive branch vowed to dictatorially over-ride the 2nd amendment and no one in DC is standing in opposition!
The Article V language specifically contains the language to allow for the States to propose Amendments to the constitution. The entire premise of this clause is to give the states the ability to Constitutionally address an overbearing Federal Government. We know that the Congressional method of proposing amendments would mean that we would NEVER be able to address an out of control Federal government.
The Framers specifically gave us both the Congressional and State options to propose Amendments to the Constitution. The result of both is the same. No matter which method is used to propose Amendments, these Amendments would still require 3/4’s of the States to approve them.
In our current extra-constitutional operation of the government, there has been NOT a single state approving any of the infringements. The Congress is not objecting and the courts are working with the executive branch to continue the erosion.
We have an ongoing “runaway convention” in our current Federal Government. The only Constitutional method of addressing this is with an Article V Convention of the States.
Your article could not be more wrong.
“Once in session delegates to a convention can decide to make an Article V Convention a Constitutional Convention if they so choose. There is no constitutional or legal authority to stop them.
In a convention a new constitution could be introduced by way of amendment.”
More fabrication. I suggest you become MUCH more educated on this process. The delegates are assigned by each state, the delegates are then beholden to their State and subjected to recall at any time. As soon as ANY delegate acts outside of his State’s wishes, he would be recalled.
I highly doubt that 3/4’s of the states would call for, through their delegates, a full re-write of the complete constitution.
If we don’t do something, the next demo will be a dictator. The dem congress will stop any conservative legislation and we will be ruled by a pen and a phone. If the local reps fail us, then we are truly doomed.
“No, real patriots will not support term limits.”
Do you mean, as an example, every one of our actual Framers? They never imagined that any individual would serve in lifetime positions in the hot, humid swamp that was the Capital. Instead, they saw a term in office as servitude to their fellow man and as a result they SELF term limited.
Had the Framers ever imagined that we would end up with an entire class of career politicians, I have no doubt that they would have supported term limits. However, I can’t expect that they solved EVERY problem, so we can do some of the hard work!
Which is why they wrote term limits into the Constitution, right?
They never imagined that any individual would serve in lifetime positions in the hot, humid swamp that was the Capital.
So, instead of stifling free speech, why not go after the $$$ that keeps them coming back year after year? Drop their wages to minimum wage, force them into obammycare and into regular investment accounts like us schlubs, and make it so that it's more akin to jury duty, which is exactly as the framers viewed public service? See then, how fast these guys term limit themselves.
We could start by forcing them to abide by the Constitution in the first place. I don't understand this whole argument that the Constitution and BoR's are not enough, so we need more laws for them to ignore???
I take it as true of your statement that, “we live in a constant state of a ‘runaway convention.’â€
Since politicians are on board this on going runaway convention freight train, how is it they will feel compelled to restrain themselves with any convention proposed amendments? The answer is they will not.
The States do approve infringements of the Constitution by the federal government in federal funding and governors go to Washington, D.C. begging for them.
State politicians better rethink what they are doing before they bite the hand that feeds them, have to make painful budget cuts, and then get elected out of office.
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