[House Atreides]

Awaiting the imminent arrival of the usual frantic and panicked anti-Cruz jihadists.

[ilovesarah2012]

I would like to see the matter settled once and for all but I don’t think it will be. Either you are a natural-born citizen or you are not.

[cymbeline]

Would someone explain why the Cruz citizenship issue is so complex. Unlike Obama, where fraudulent birth certificate accusations muddied the waters, all of Cruz’s and our country’s documentation is out in the open.

Guess something’s ambiguous in our Constitution. The explanations out there are all long and there are a lot of them. Why the fog?

[Calpublican]

Is a man who refuses to understand the law on an issue
qualified to be president.

You’d think with all his attorneys and with the case he
tried to make about Obama he would get it by now.

[Calpublican]

Trump just raising this so we won’t notice he
is in over his head. He cannot best Cruz in any
head to head confrontation because most of the time
Trump is winging it.

[moehoward]

Every last DU member is probably canceling their cable/dish subscriptions because these silly threads are all the entertainment they need.

[Godebert]

Note the reference to Natural Law in the first sentence of our Declaration of Independence.

It is crystal clear that the Founding Fathers used the Natural Law definition of 'natural born Citizen' when they wrote Article II. By invoking "The Laws of Nature and Nature's God" the 56 signers of the Declaration incorporated a legal standard of freedom into the forms of government that would follow.

President John Quincy Adams, writing in 1839, looked back at the founding period and recognized the true meaning of the Declaration's reliance on the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God." He observed that the American people's "charter was the Declaration of Independence. Their rights, the natural rights of mankind. Their government, such as should be instituted by the people, under the solemn mutual pledges of perpetual union, founded on the self-evident truth's proclaimed in the Declaration."

The Constitution, Vattel, and “Natural Born Citizen”: What Our Framers Knew

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

MINOR V. HAPPERSETT IS BINDING PRECEDENT AS TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

The Harvard Law Review Article Taken Apart Piece by Piece and Utterly Destroyed

Citizenship Terms Used in the U.S. Constitution - The 5 Terms Defined & Some Legal Reference to Same

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Laws of Nature and of Nature's God: The True Foundation of American Law

Publications of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts, Volume 20 - Use of The Law of Nations by the Constitutional Convention

[erod]

[DoodleDawg]

Cruz Citizenship Kerfuffle Is a Distraction

Of course it is. Why do you think Trump raised it to begin with?

[combat_boots]

Yes. It’s a distraction. But Grayson’s suit comes with Democrat blessing. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the courts, all the way to SCOTUS, found Cruz ineligible because the ink on some piece of paper was not the right color blue.

And if it does come down to a real fight, drag 0bama’s lack of sending the birth confirmation to Arizona. Butterdezillion knows more about that. Or the 5-year residency requirement for the mother. Let’s just see whether the 0bama precedent flanks...or whether the actual truth comes out.