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Listen: Levin: Both Cruz and Obama are Natural Born Citizens, Here's Why (video at Link)
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Posted on 01/07/2016 3:49:02 AM PST by Perdogg

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To: nikos1121
I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump is in his zone, and the zone is the New York genes running through his body. I think he says things for a purpose. I winced when he brought this up about Cruz, but in some ways it helps Cruz, because Cruz has class, and doesn’t take the bait. But Trump knows too, that there are a lot of stupid people out there who will believe anything, they’re called low informational democrats and independents, and he’s looking for their vote. I’d say fifty percent of what Trump says is directed at them.

Very reasonable assessment, but I have a few minor disagreements. One is that I have noticed and documented in Trump a reflex to go with a conventional liberal talking point on some things....and I'd say that the people Trump's comments are aimed at are NOT GONNA VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT A DEMOCRAT anyway - thus this is a distraction that the liberal media LOVES! Anything that the liberal media LOVES does not belong in a Republican primary season. Period.

21 posted on 01/07/2016 4:28:22 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Perdogg

Levin is missing the point. Its not what he or anybody else opines on it since the USSC has not ruled on it YET. The problem is if Cruz is nominated the Dem/GOPe cartel WILL use the still being contested issue to contest Cruz’s Eligibility, and will do so late in the Game (October Surprise) and use their liberal judges to tie up his taking office if elected for possibly years. Or, they can try to strike him after the election forcing either the Dem or the Kenyan into office.

And if anybody thinks they will not at least try this, they have not been paying attention.

The ONLY way to prevent this potential mess is for Cruz to get a declaratory judgment ending the issue.

Until then, all the opinions by talking heads is meaningless.


22 posted on 01/07/2016 4:29:38 AM PST by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: usafa92

I’m not a professional journalist...I’m a commentator, columnist and author. And more concerned with the truth than your notion of proper comportment.....on this forum.....which you totally mischaracterized out of ignorance or dishonesty...


23 posted on 01/07/2016 4:30:27 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: demshateGod

Give me a clue.


24 posted on 01/07/2016 4:31:54 AM PST by odawg
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To: demshateGod

WOW you are the first I have heard make that distinction. Good for you there is a distinct difference between supporters and zealots on both sides of the Cruz/Trump debate.


25 posted on 01/07/2016 4:32:31 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: odawg

Trumpbots are still in bed.


26 posted on 01/07/2016 4:33:12 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: Perdogg

The argument was that by statute, Stanley was too young to confer citizenship to a child. Dumb law, and maybe even an unconstitutional law, but it was on the books nonetheless. It certainly wasn’t wrth perusing, because over the overwhelming evidence that he was born in Hawaii which would make that line of argument moot. Levin also loses me on this standing issue. As a citizen, I should have standing to question such things.


27 posted on 01/07/2016 4:34:24 AM PST by Homer1
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To: nclaurel
It's mostly been a tacit distinction and I feel like I've applied it consistently.
28 posted on 01/07/2016 4:36:02 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God)
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To: dynoman

The democrats started attacking cruz on this issue before trump was asked about it

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/10/15/white-house-toronto-is-cruzs-other-hometown-team/

Trump is right that the democrats will hammer this issue and Cruz has to settle it, i mean you dont think hillary and the liberal media will not try to crucify cruz on this ?


29 posted on 01/07/2016 4:36:16 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Well whatever you consider yourself, you should be embarrassed with the way you act and conduct yourself on this forum.


30 posted on 01/07/2016 4:38:05 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: demshateGod

He’s a friend of mine. I have great respect for him…. certainly it’s a stumbling block and he’s going to have to have it solved before he goes too far,’

This is what trump said , hes saying democrats will use this against Cruz and hell they already started before he said this

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/60ac10e35d8942448114f3e63e2958cb/earnest-refers-toronto-cruzs-other-hometown-team


31 posted on 01/07/2016 4:39:38 AM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Mechanicos
The ONLY way to prevent this potential mess is for Cruz to get a declaratory judgment ending the issue.

And what makes you think that those same lib judges would give Cruz a favorable "declaratory judgment," especially after they get calls from ValJarr, Hatch, Roberts, etc...?

Can of worms that does NOT need to be opened. Period.

32 posted on 01/07/2016 4:44:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The “sealed” records have been discussed to nausea in the last days. Apparently only Cruz can release release his records from Canada and INS, but then you knew that. I hope he does so to shut people up as I fully believe there is nothing of consequence there and hope we can move on.


33 posted on 01/07/2016 4:44:39 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: usafa92

Most FReepers, even when in a disagreement are enjoyable to interact with.
You on the contrary are quite the opposite.

**************

If it bothers you a lot, don’t respond and interact directly. You have many options
to make your points without direct response, etc. Heck you can even not read a posters writings,
just skip over and move along.

If on the other hand you choose to interact then you get what you get. That’s life.


34 posted on 01/07/2016 4:45:03 AM PST by deport
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Birth records are naturally sealed, as is a Consular Record of Birth Abroad.

I believe Cruz has "unsealed" all the relevant materials, save for evidence or a statement that his mother was a US citizen at the time of Ted's birth, and that fact is in the nature of proving a negative.

I don't think Cruz is a NBC, because one has to apply US statutory law to find him a citizen. Absent US statutory law, his citizenship would be Canadian. By application of statutory law (assuming his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth), he is considered to be a US Citizen.

My opinion doesn't have any bearing on the issue, any more than my opinion has bearing on the fact that homosexuals have a constitutional right to single sex marriage.

35 posted on 01/07/2016 4:45:56 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: nclaurel

Cite your source:

btw He was born in Canada. His mother is American citizen. What do you need to see?


36 posted on 01/07/2016 4:46:29 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Timber Rattler

It may not “need” to be opened but it WILL be opened if hes the Nominee. Best to get it out of the way now.


37 posted on 01/07/2016 4:46:36 AM PST by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: usafa92

now we’ve heard from the concern troll......more worried about me than the issues at hand. Dude, I’m not even more worried about me than the issues...the truth.


38 posted on 01/07/2016 4:47:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: Mechanicos

Your concern is noted.


39 posted on 01/07/2016 4:47:47 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Perdogg

Cruz needs to resolve this issue so we can move on to real issues. Whatever that takes.


40 posted on 01/07/2016 4:52:00 AM PST by McGruff (Still hoping for a Trump/Cruz 2016 ticket.)
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