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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Should we return the issue of slavery to the states?

The issue of slavery was resolved the proper Constitutional way - with a Constitutional amendment. If you can resolve the marriage and abortion issues with constitutional amendments, that would be great. But barring that, the Constitution does not give the Federal government any jurisdiction in those areas of law. SCOTUS has improperly claimed that power. Overturning the Oberfell decision would not outlaw same-sex marriage across the country - it would return the issue to the states.

What would you say if rape was deemed acceptable in certain states, but not in others? How about murder or armed robbery?

What are you talking about? Those are crimes which ARE defined by the states. What constitutes rape can vary from state to state, as well as what constitutes murder. And the punishments vary from state to state as well.

And just how does one return the issues of marriage and abortion to the states?

Congress would need to pass laws overturning Rove v Wade and Oberfell, and include a clause in each law that removes any jurisdiction of the courts to review the law. (That is constitutional.) That would return the issue to the states.

I no longer have much sympathy for compromisers on this issue.

Why is actually abiding by the Constitution now considered compromising? I thought we WANTED a government that followed the Constitution.

10 posted on 01/02/2016 7:23:01 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

You’re off the mark. Abortion and “gay marriage” are gross, obvious violations of the natural law, and as such they are null and void, no matter who issued any edict or statute to the contrary.

Not a single clause of the stated purposes of the U.S. Constitution can be fulfilled as long as abortion is allowed, or while natural marriage and the natural family are being destroyed.

Abortion and “gay marriage” represent an existential threat to this free republic. Not only does every level of government have legitimate authority to deal with that threat, they have a solemn duty to do so.

The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact.


11 posted on 01/02/2016 7:31:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: CA Conservative
What are you talking about? Those are crimes which ARE defined by the states.

So, if a state determines that it is OK to rob a convenience store, rape the clerk, and murder the customers, you're alright with that?

Why is actually abiding by the Constitution now considered compromising? I thought we WANTED a government that followed the Constitution.

There are a multitude of things that are Constitutional but not moral. There are actions that can be both Constitutional and moral. I do not want a government that is immoral but cloaks its immorality in claims of Constitutionality.
12 posted on 01/02/2016 7:42:48 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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