Cruz calls Rubio "an unusually good liar"

The Washington Times ^ | December 21, 2015 | Ted Constantine

[grania]

Trump has never been deceitful about his background. Clinton has. At this point in life, Trump has learned from his experiences. By all indications he's a fantastically dedicated father, grandfather, and husband. The Clintons, on the other hand just keep up the sleazy stuff.

So how is it a change that Freepers reject the Clintons for their behavior but accept Trump's background?

[generally]

I’d like to think that Trump and Cruz have some sort of joint plan.

I strongly prefer Cruz, but I’d vote for Trump if he got the nomination. No way would I vote for Jeb or Marco. (Jeb: bland RINO Bush III, Marco: a duplicitous liar)

[TigersEye]

He forgot to add that Rubio is a traitor to the very people who got him elected.

I think he said that in the last debate.

[jaydee770]

“...The idea is as long as we are importing workers the companies need to be abiding by the rules of hire....they aren’t...”

Now if we are saying the H1B rules/limits need to be changed, that is absolutely fair. But to say broadly that companies are breaking the law is unfounded, at least as far as I have ever been able to tell in the IT sector with H1B visa’s. They would be extremely foolish to flout the law in that regard. There is too much of a paper-trail and prior declarations with H1B employees in the IT sector. The companies might as well walk themselves onto the gallows and put the noose around their own neck start poking the hangman with a stick. There are even HR employees who are responsible for tracking H1B employees, their dates and making sure they are good to go. If it appears to you that companies are abusing H1B Visa holders, it’s probably the law/rules that you want changed. The companies, again based on my personal experience, do avail themselves of the process, but follow the law.

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood and you are talking about the illegal alien problems in the manual labor & construction trades? That is absolutely a problem and in my opinion, a big part of the solution to that problem lies with dropping the legal hammer directly on the employers and not allowing them any plausible deniability that they “didn’t know they were illegal”. But I don’t know of any H1B Visa holders coming out of India for roofing jobs.

[caww]

I’m saying that the laws currently in pace need to be followed WITHOUT companies looking for loopholes to get around them, and if they do break those laws then they need to be enforced....they aren’t.. An example is some companies will indeed advertise positions but they do so in locations miles and miles away from the place they’re advertising for. (in reference to agricultural workers)...the local people who would work don’t even know there’s openings.

As for the Tech jobs.......Asian countries are very big at sending their people here for Tech jobs.....and companies seem to think the work ethic etc. of foreigners is far better, as is their education and experience than American workers.....which I really can’t dispute for that’s seen pretty much in every area of business and industry today....and this at every level.

As for roofers and general labors....many of them are coming from Mexico and S. America........indeed they will work not only for less wages, they have no representation so they are often mistreated and sometimes not even paid for the work they do.

What I do know is that companies no longer look to hire just from their own country, but in fact the “pickings” are now across the globe ....because the workforce internationally is seen as a commodity...Workforce “capital” etc. etc. Thus the influx of refugees and third world populations as we’re seeing now....and that’s because the leaderships believe “everyone” should have a “fair shot” at a job.

[jaydee770]

“... laws currently in pace need to be followed WITHOUT companies looking for loopholes to get around them...”

Like I said, there is so much of a paper-trail and prior work to get an H1B visa granted in the first place, you’d be a fool to try and game the system. I don’t even know how you would game the system (hack the state dept’s visa system?). We do tweak the annual H1B quota numbers from time to time and that is completely fair. But I see no sane reason why a company would want to violate the H1B process, even if there was a profitable way to violate it. I think much of the “abuse” allegations are companies taking advantage of the rules to outsource or replace IT departments. It’s ugly. It’s headline grabbing. But it’s not “abuse” or illegal. I’ve seen time and again where a US firm does the same thing, low-bidding a contract to replace higher paid staff with lower paid staff even though the staff are still mostly US citizens on both sides. And the outgoing staff have to (if they want any severance) either train their replacements or log their daily activities for the inbound replacements.

Illegal alien labor on the other hand is *clearly* a problem. The Border patrol does what they can, but they are encumbered by a Sisyphean task which I think our govt intentionally inflicts. My opinion is that it would be a big help to the Border Patrol if we removed the two biggest “baits” that keeps enticing illegals across the border: Jobs and welfare. If the employers risked much more of their own hide with increased prosecution resulting in jail & fines when caught employing illegals, the jobs would dry up. If it were illegal for a state to provide benefits to illegal aliens, the illegals would have to go elsewhere for a handout. They would self-deport because they need to make a living somehow. Enact those two policies and I believe the illegal problem starts declining precipitously, presuming Trump/Cruz/Whoever can get legislators to legislate their agenda.