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Federal judge: Drinking tea, shopping at a gardening store is probable cause
Washington Post ^ | December 28, 2015 | Radley Balko

Posted on 12/29/2015 6:06:30 PM PST by Twotone

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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

His point is the most innocuous of activities can have far-reaching consequences.

I doubt you’d be feeling enthusiastic about law enforcement after being held at gunpoint and they ransacked your home looking for evidence of a crime and they came up empty.

Cops could care less if you’re a model citizen as long as they have probable cause... which is exactly what this federal judge ruled.

If they make a mistake, it happens and this is often the result of failing to investigate a person of interest thoroughly prior to effecting an arrest. And Kansas was good-faith law enforcement.


21 posted on 12/29/2015 6:28:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: boycott

22 posted on 12/29/2015 6:29:57 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Twotone

So that’s what they’re doing when they’re not protecting us from terrorists.


23 posted on 12/29/2015 6:34:04 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Twotone

That judge needs a tune up.


24 posted on 12/29/2015 6:37:33 PM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: I want the USA back

If this couple lived in my state, it wouldn’t even have triggered a raid.

Marijuana is legal in Colorado and there is a marijuana store in my small town.


25 posted on 12/29/2015 6:37:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: I want the USA back

They are largely “Revenuers”.


26 posted on 12/29/2015 6:38:08 PM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Twotone

I have been following this case for several years. To imagine what life is like in Leawood, think Beverly Hills Cop on the Prairie. It’s no hotbed of crime and the cops can concentrate on failure to properly dispose of your trash in the City Park.

Unfortunately, the influx of Federal Dollars that have fueled the War on Drugs have corrupted the Law Enforcement system, the legal system, and the politicians. Stunts like this are done to impress the Feds so that they can get more money. The the very latest cruisers and other toys. The Johnson County Sheriffs Department is ditto.

The law abiding citizens are being treated with contempt by an arrogant and out of control local government apparatus. We need to stop rewarding this kind of behavior and it’s largely the Conservatives who have been cheering this on.


27 posted on 12/29/2015 6:38:53 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Twotone
It should not be tolerated in a FREE country.

Yes, but it is tolerated here in the US. Much more than we are made aware of. They even kill people.

28 posted on 12/29/2015 6:40:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Crazieman
Ah, Johnson county. That explains it.

LOL!

29 posted on 12/29/2015 6:40:58 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: centurion316

They can dig through trash and they don’t need to get a warrant to find probable cause.

One man’s trash is another man’s gold mine. Especially to cops.


30 posted on 12/29/2015 6:41:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

looks pretty accurate here:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/23951053/leawood-family-seeks-7-million-for-swat-style


31 posted on 12/29/2015 6:41:32 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Cvengr

They’re just there to answer a Craig’slist ad offering to clean your firing pins for free.


They use Craig’s List and other sites like that to attract men that hire prostitutes. Then they get to show mugshots of all the johns in the next day’s newspaper. It’s like they’re taking a big bite out of crime. All it’s really about is they want their funding. It’s their jobs that rely on it and they know that sleaze sells.

I know hiring hookers is against the law and it is sleazy but I don’t believe we need to invest so much in resources for that kind if stuff when we have people getting murdered all the time on our streets.

And I don’t believe that it helps the people that get arrested because it destroys their families and reputations. I know law enforcement may get off on those stories but I believe there are better ways to handle it.


32 posted on 12/29/2015 6:42:25 PM PST by boycott (--)
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To: FerociousRabbit

Just going to the local Wal-Mart is now considered probable cause to violate our God-given right of privacy in our own homes.


33 posted on 12/29/2015 6:42:49 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: boycott

is that smoke on the left from gun fire?


34 posted on 12/29/2015 6:43:45 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: philetus

I don’t know. I am not even 100% sure it’s from the same house.

I just did a google image search on the family and the arrest and this is the story that came up ...

http://dailyhaze.com/a-federal-judge-ruled-that-the-johnson-county-kansas-sheriffs-department-was-allowed-to-conduct-a-raid-for-a-family-shopping-at-a-garden-store/


35 posted on 12/29/2015 6:46:27 PM PST by boycott (--)
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To: goldstategop

The authorities in Leawood are very busy. It’s already New Year’s and they only have six plus months to get ready for all of the potential law breaking at the 4th of July Fireworks display.


36 posted on 12/29/2015 6:49:26 PM PST by centurion316
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

He includes a link to the court opinion which confirms everything he wrote.


37 posted on 12/29/2015 6:49:36 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Vic S

Note to self: Always use a rented car if I’m going to be making purchases related to the production of illegal substances. Let the SWAT team raid Enterprise instead.


38 posted on 12/29/2015 6:50:43 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: centurion316

“We need to stop rewarding this kind of behavior and it’s largely the Conservatives who have been cheering this on.”

Same folks who cheered on the “Patriot Act” and continue to cheer on the “War on Drugs”.

Cops are so damn bored they are trying to make criminals of everybody. Meanwhile ISIS and MS-13 continue to operate with impunity. But it’s those pesky Americans they keep going after?


39 posted on 12/29/2015 6:52:53 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Twotone

Without any demonstrated evidence that the people targeted were violent, why was a SWAT team sent? It should have been two detectives knocking on the door.


40 posted on 12/29/2015 6:58:30 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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