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Police in California can seize guns without prior notice starting Jan. 1
KPCC-FM ^ | December 28, 2015 | Frank Stoltze, Correspondent

Posted on 12/29/2015 1:35:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SpaceBar

That’s correct. AND there are also cases where a little pre-emptive profiling would have been called for, too.


21 posted on 12/29/2015 2:39:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

We are on the same page.


22 posted on 12/29/2015 2:41:23 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Gaffer
The gun owner can not even petition the court for return of his weapons until 21 days have past. So how long after the 21 days will he even get a hearing?

This article is intentionally murky in the details.

23 posted on 12/29/2015 2:42:12 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kalifornistan - we put the doo in due process!


24 posted on 12/29/2015 2:48:28 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ImNotLying

Problem with that is that the escapees keep contaminating the free states.


25 posted on 12/29/2015 2:53:21 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Jim Robinson; kingu; Pollster1; AlaskaErik; Gaffer; SpaceBar; Pontiac; ScottinVA; ...
Happy New Year CA!

(AB1014) seeks to address the mentally unstable, but it's most assuredly wide open for abuse.

Those tyrannical, democrat, poseur-do-gooders’ always miss the mark. I hope they're not gun owners!

26 posted on 12/29/2015 2:53:37 AM PST by onyx
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To: Gaffer

“if he survives a rigorous mental rectal exam.....”

With the new medical databases being created, they’ll magically ‘find’ a correlation between those who fell prey to having their firearms confiscated and information they already had, but didn’t notice, eliminating the ‘need’ for family members to make the ‘difficult decision’ to turn other family members in. The database will then be able to notify the courts automatically. It’s really not all that far fetched given that the law is based on the ‘possibility’ of a future crime.


27 posted on 12/29/2015 2:56:28 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est

Right. That’s the purpose of forcing doctors to question patients about guns in the home.


28 posted on 12/29/2015 2:57:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Carthego delenda est
“Family members first, disgruntled neighbors and coworkers next.”

This law kind of reminds me of the three-strikes law, where there can be unintended consequences. Truly disturbed people will do whatever is necessary to get their way or not get caught.

29 posted on 12/29/2015 3:03:04 AM PST by IAMNO1 (Enough with the divisions. Lets get somebody in there who'll fix this mess.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are you nucking futs? Call 1-800-...


30 posted on 12/29/2015 3:10:30 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Violates due process, and the bill of rights.


31 posted on 12/29/2015 3:12:30 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SpaceBar
Hey Fred ... ever shoot a STEN ?

Nahhh

There's one down on Main St ... let's go get it

OK ... yeah .... cool

32 posted on 12/29/2015 3:14:25 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i envision an immediate need for more paperless guns, more pvc gardens, and more tragic boating accidents.


33 posted on 12/29/2015 3:18:01 AM PST by SteveH
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”


34 posted on 12/29/2015 3:19:27 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kingu

One hopes this is bounced out by the first judge it goes before.

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Someone will challenge this “law” and eventually it will wind up in the ninth circuit. hmmmm, I wonder how they will rule.

The deck is stacked against Californians.


35 posted on 12/29/2015 3:38:00 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: SpaceBar; Fai Mao

Probably not a popular view, but I think even convicted felons who have fully paid their debt to society through fines and/or imprisonment, should have their 2’nd amendment rights fully reinstated on completion of their restitution.

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If they are so violent, they cannot be trusted with a gun, keep them in prison.

I was convicted of carrying concealed about 15 years ago (Illinois) a felony conviction. I was never accused of “brandishing”. A waitress saw it in my coat pocket, which I stupidly had hung on a rack.

She had to have been going through coat pockets to have found it in the first place. She had to have been a liberal/thief. She called the cops.

72 hours in the crap hole county jail awaiting bond hearing, $2500 for a lawyer, $2500 fine, 1 year probation and at age 54, a felony conviction on my record. First for me of any kind of offence, except a speeding ticket one time.

I’m 70 years old now and a lot more careful and yes, I still carry. It’s highly unlikely that I’ll be stopped and searched. If it happens, I’ll do my time.


36 posted on 12/29/2015 3:51:45 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: dasboot

>> Don’t piss off your wife.

Don’t live in California.


37 posted on 12/29/2015 4:00:38 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unconstitutional. But don’t expect Pansy Roberts (thanks Jorge) and his court of feminazi hags to overturn it.


38 posted on 12/29/2015 4:01:33 AM PST by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: SpaceBar
Probably not a popular view, but I think even convicted felons who have fully paid their debt to society through fines and/or imprisonment, should have their 2’nd amendment rights fully reinstated on completion of their restitution.

As some have noted, if one is too dangerous to own a gun, then that person is too dangerous to be walking free...

Hard to claim someone has "repaid their debt to society" and not grant them the same Constitutional rights...

39 posted on 12/29/2015 4:08:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this something like a TRO where one party gives credible evidence to a judge, who issues the temporary order but a short hearing date is scheduled where the restrained party can challenge the order and regain their rights? Of course, that depends on the quality of the judges.


40 posted on 12/29/2015 4:14:58 AM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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