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How Margaret Thatcher Won the Cold War
The Wall Street Journal ^ | December 23, 2015 | Charles Moore

Posted on 12/26/2015 6:18:45 AM PST by Cecily

As we confront a hostile Russia today, the West is unsure what to do. For guidance, perhaps we should look back to the Soviet era, when we possessed a decidedly stronger sense of allied purpose.

In February 1984, Margaret Thatcher flew home from the Moscow funeral of the Soviet leader Yuri Andropov. Frustrated by his equally aged successor, Konstantin Chernenko, the British prime minister told her aides, “For heaven’s sake, try and find me a young Russian.”

She was searching for change. In London in April 1975, as leader of Britain’s opposition, Thatcher had her first one-on-one meeting with a former governor of California named Ronald Reagan. He, too, was out of office, seeking the 1976 Republican presidential nomination. The pair agreed that the West was giving away too much to the Soviets, while Moscow was winning the arms race. This was an unpopular view, so the Reagan-Thatcher friendship was forged in adversity. It would prove the stronger for it.

Thatcher gained power in 1979, Reagan in January, 1981. Together, against big protest movements, they installed a new class of nuclear weapons in Europe to counter the burgeoning Soviet arsenal. Having achieved this position of strength, Thatcher thought it should be bargained from. In September 1983, she said publicly in Washington, “We stand ready…if and when the circumstances are right—to talk to the Soviet leadership.” Reagan told her, privately, that he agreed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: coldwar; thatcher; women
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What would Margaret have made of Vlad Putin and his activities in Ukraine?
1 posted on 12/26/2015 6:18:45 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Cecily
Thatcher played a pivotal role for sure.But the fact is that Reagan,Thatcher and John Paul II,together,brought down the Berlin Wall.And IMO it could be said that Helmut Kohl also played a noteworthy role as well.

Our enemies know that the modern Rat Party can be played for limp wristed pansies every single time.Carter...Clinton...Obola...and Clinton II were/are not to be feared by those who JFK once warned "we will support *any* friend,oppose *any* foe..".

2 posted on 12/26/2015 6:31:20 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Pope and Reagan photo pope-and-reagan-733624.jpg
3 posted on 12/26/2015 6:34:20 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Kohl was such a minor player. Germany had no power position at all save what the US gave it


4 posted on 12/26/2015 6:38:44 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I miss Maggie.


5 posted on 12/26/2015 6:45:58 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: Cecily
This article is less than accurate. It attributes the victory in the cold war and freeing of the former Soviet Union and eastern Europe from Communist oppression to Gorbachev “with his beautiful suits and his French ties and a stunning wife” and Prime Minister Thatcher's persuasion at private meetings.

Mrs. Thatcher had an influence but it was Ronald Reagan's resolve and willingness to publicly articulate the case against Communism, Pope John Paul II, the people of Solidarity in Poland and the strength of the U.S. military that caused the collapse of the evil empire of Communism.

Gorbachev was not a reformer. Glasnost was a propaganda tool and nothing else. Mrs. Thatcher was a strong, intelligent and insightful leader but she did not singlehandedly win the cold war.

6 posted on 12/26/2015 6:53:57 AM PST by detective
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Kohl was such a minor player. Germany had no power position at all save what the US gave it

It's true that Kohl was the weakest of the group in military/economic/moral terms.But it's hard to imagine that he had *no* influence on ordinary Germans living in the East.IIRC the typical East German could easily tune into West German TV and radio and see and hear about the Audis and BMWs there and the nice vacations West Germans were able to take.It's also easy for me to believe that he had *some* influence on at least *some* East German officials.

7 posted on 12/26/2015 6:59:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Cecily

Great article. God, how our enemies must love pushing around feckless ‘leaders” like Obama, Kerry, Hillary, Merkel, et al.


8 posted on 12/26/2015 7:01:56 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrym)
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To: Nifster
“Kohl was such a minor player. Germany had no power position at all save what the US gave it.”

The positioning of missiles in Germany that directly threatened the Soviet Union was an integral part in the strategy that succeeded against the Soviets. Liberals and leftists in the United States and Germany fought their installation bitterly. The American and European media backed the Soviets and opposed missile deployment. Helmut Kohl courageously stood beside Reagan and was able to get the missiles deployed in Germany despite opposition. This was a major advantage against the Soviets.

9 posted on 12/26/2015 7:02:14 AM PST by detective
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Gorbachev was not a reformer.

That may be true.But one thing you *must* give Gorby credit for is that when push came to shove he didn't fire on his own people as the Butchers of Beijing had done a couple of years earlier.

10 posted on 12/26/2015 7:03:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: detective
Mrs. Thatcher was a strong, intelligent and insightful leader but she did not singlehandedly win the cold war.

For all intents and purposes, though, Mrs. Thatcher assumed effective leadership of the West when Reagan left office.

Recall her advice to the first President Bush;

"Don't go all wobbly, George."

11 posted on 12/26/2015 7:11:10 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Gay State Conservative

We, the United States military brought down the USSR. They knew we would kick their asses on the land sea and in the air.


12 posted on 12/26/2015 7:38:39 AM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: FatherofFive
thank you... JPII played no small part in that play
13 posted on 12/26/2015 7:44:55 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
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To: Gay State Conservative

There are some dead people in the Baltics who’d like to have a word with you.


14 posted on 12/26/2015 7:45:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: detective
It was more than a propaganda exercise. Gorbachev and the younger Soviets realized that their system was a decrepit empty shell in need of a respite from the struggle with the West to survive. So Glasnost was a truce, a time out, and Perestroika (restructuring) was supposed to be an adjustment, not a changeover to Capitalism. But by early 1991, and especially after the first Gulf War had demonstrated how far behind Russia's military industry had fallen, the momentum toward radical change was unstoppable. The first really free election for Russian president was held in May of that year. Then the attempted coup by the hard liners was the final straw.

I was in Russia for the last two weeks of April that year and the sense of change and relief was palpable. We would sit across from our Russian hosts and after a few vodkas we'd start grinning at each other talking about surviving how close we'd come to annihilating each other. They took glee in taking us through facilities, like a factory that made miniature precision bearings used in rocket engines, that a few years before they'd have been arrested for mentioning to a westerner. It was heady stuff.

15 posted on 12/26/2015 8:04:07 AM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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To: okie01

“Mrs. Thatcher assumed effective leadership of the West when Reagan left office.”

The sad fact is there has been very little “effective leadership” in the west since Reagan left office. Mrs. Thatcher was very strong and very capable. But beyond Thatcher, Reagan and a few others western leaders have been either incompetent, treasonous or both.

When I compare the position America was in when Reagan left office and the position America is in today it makes me very angry.


16 posted on 12/26/2015 8:19:11 AM PST by detective
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To: katana

“Glasnost was a truce, a time out, and Perestroika (restructuring) was supposed to be an adjustment, not a changeover to Capitalism.”

Glasnost was a propaganda tool to convince people that the Soviet Union was no longer totalitarian and expansionist. It did try to make the western governments lower their guard so you can say it was kind of a call for a truce. But it was completely dishonest.

Perestroika was an attempt by the Communist Party and the Soviet government to restore order, discipline and competence to the corrupt Soviet system. It failed completely.


17 posted on 12/26/2015 8:27:18 AM PST by detective
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To: Cecily

The German protests against GW Bush were nothing compared to those against Reagan during the Peacekeeper missile deployment. Helmut Kohl was definitely a positive factor.

18 posted on 12/26/2015 8:44:17 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Cecily
Reagan won the cold war, which ended on June 1, 1988, when Reagan and Gorbachev exchanged signed copies of the INF treaty and issued a joint statement which included the key line: both countries were determined "to prevent any war between the United States and Soviet Union, whether nuclear or conventional," and disavowed "any intention to achieve military superiority." This treaty was made possible by the Russians having to make the concessions necessary to open the way to a comprehensive new arms treaty.

Margaret Thatcher, on Nov. 28,1988 stated "The cold war is already at an end."

19 posted on 12/26/2015 9:04:51 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: wally_bert
I miss Maggie.

One of her best speeches. (It's short.)

https://youtu.be/DQ6TgaPJcR0

20 posted on 12/26/2015 10:32:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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