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Trey Gowdy Twists Natural Born Citizen Qualification to Support Marco Rubio
Freedom Outpost ^ | 12/19/2015 | Tim Brown

Posted on 12/21/2015 6:04:59 AM PST by HomerBohn

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To: odawg

Yeah those native Irish really had it together when Columbus landed.


41 posted on 12/21/2015 7:35:32 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JayGalt
"Unless we are redefining natural born citizen"

Evidently we are. The new definition is that the child have one US passport holding parent (dual citizen is OK) and the child can be born anywhere in the world. The Marxist globalists win again.

42 posted on 12/21/2015 7:36:50 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: HomerBohn

We have been through this ad nauseum over Obama.

The definition of Natural Born Citizen was re-defined by an illegal Senate resolution in 2008. Its over and things are not going to change back. Not unless the Supreme Court decides to take up the issue and they don’t want to touch it with a 10 ft pole.


43 posted on 12/21/2015 7:38:18 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Cruz's mother, Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, was born in Wilmington, Delaware
Father: Cuban
Mother: American

44 posted on 12/21/2015 7:39:52 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: justlittleoleme
Yeah....but keep in mind that per Vattel's definition of a natural born citizen (you know, the one that is under discussion in the article that generated this thread), it is the FATHER'S nationality that determines a NBC, not the mother's. In other words, Ted Cruz still - by that definition - would not be a NBC.
45 posted on 12/21/2015 7:45:15 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Aeterna Aduersus Tyrannos)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

In the past few weeks, I’ve read on FR that the following are RINOs:

Rush Limbaugh
Mark Levin
Trey Gowdy

Bizarre.


No, what’s bizarre is defending Gowdy while he pimps for Marco Amnestio and enables Obama’s TPA for his globalist big donors.

Anybody doing their homework has know for quite some time that while Gowdy plays a good conservative on TV he is far from the genuine article.


46 posted on 12/21/2015 7:45:39 AM PST by lodi90
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To: exit82

“Marco Rubio is a 14th Amendment baby.”

Except the 14th Amendment doesn’t give citizenship to anchor babies. Rubio needs to get naturalized if he wants to continue on in the Senate. He’s an illegal alien like our marxist muslim in chief.


47 posted on 12/21/2015 7:47:18 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: JayGalt

There are only two types of citizens. Those naturalized, and those naturally born as citizens.


48 posted on 12/21/2015 7:47:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Me too! I’ve wondered aloud many times how “such an experienced prosecutor” and alleged hardass could conduct so many damned hearings with so many witnesses that never really go anywhere. His recent love fest with Frau Hitlery made me want to puke.

Another leading candidate to get primaried....


49 posted on 12/21/2015 7:48:13 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: thackney
Yes...

natural born Citizens:

Born on U.S. soil to U.S. parents.

naturalized:

Everyone else. Whether it's concocted out of thin air, by the wave of a wand or actual paperwork.

50 posted on 12/21/2015 7:53:26 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

But that definition makes absolutely no sense...

So an American by birth single mother travels to another country and gives birth in another country.

This mother has no allegiance to any other country.

Who would this child that is born be a citizen of.

The Child Is the citizen of the Mothers country.

But if an American Mother is married to a Non American father, the child’s citizenship is determined by the father?


51 posted on 12/21/2015 7:55:54 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: Electric Graffiti

False.

A Birth certificate from the US, or a foreign birth certificate from a US parent is a US citizen. There is no naturalization process required for those beyond the birth certificate.


52 posted on 12/21/2015 7:57:43 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: lodi90
Anybody doing their homework…

Golly gee! Lucky for us we have such great conservative watch dogs like you to keep the rest of us informed.

53 posted on 12/21/2015 8:00:14 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: wideawake
So?....In your opinion, as person of honest good will how do you think our Founders would define “natural born citizen”?

Would the Founders qualify someone as a natural born citizen who was born to a non-citizen parent, had dual citizenship at birth and later that needed to be renounced, born in another country,but with one U.S. citizen parent ?

As a person of honest good will, do you think our Founders would have considered that person a natural born citizen? Or?...As a person of honest good will do you think the Founders would have considered him not eligible for the position of president?

(Just wondering)

54 posted on 12/21/2015 8:02:17 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: justlittleoleme

“But if an American Mother is married to a Non American father, the child’s citizenship is determined by the father?”

Yes. See Obama for a case in point. ‘Dreams from my drunken commie kenyan mau mau father’ written by Bill Ayers.


55 posted on 12/21/2015 8:03:05 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (DEPORT OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Congress later changed the law to not exclude One’s Mother being able to enable NBC.

Have not heard of some Congressional change may also affect Rubbeio’ NBC. Regardless, I oppose him for many other reasons.


56 posted on 12/21/2015 8:03:23 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: wideawake
Well....If Article 2, Section 1, is “murky”as an honest person of good will would you support a Constitutional Amendment to clarify the murkiness?

As an honest person of good will how would you like to see natural born citizenship defined?

57 posted on 12/21/2015 8:04:55 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
natural born Citizens: Born on U.S. soil to U.S. parents.

So, a child of a military parent serving overseas is not a natural born citizen?

58 posted on 12/21/2015 8:05:27 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: bigbob

Still is with the exception of a vocal few,


59 posted on 12/21/2015 8:06:20 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: X-spurt
The Issue with Rubio is totally different.

Rubio was born May 28, 1971 in Miami, Florida, the second son and third child of Mario Rubio Reina and Oriales (née Garcia) Rubio. His parents were Cubans who immigrated to the United States in 1956, prior to the rise of Fidel Castro in January 1959. His mother made at least four trips back after Castro’s victory, including for a month in 1961. Neither of his parents was a U.S. citizen at the time of Rubio’s birth, but ultimately his parents applied for U.S. citizenship and were naturalized in 1975.
60 posted on 12/21/2015 8:06:52 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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