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The Monetary System That Made America Great Is Nonsense [GOLD STANDARD]
Forbes ^ | Dec 10, 2015 | Nathan Lewis

Posted on 12/14/2015 5:38:13 AM PST by expat_panama

For 182 years "1789 to 1971" the United States embraced the principle of a "stable dollar,"...

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...people had discovered that the best way to do this, in an imperfect world, was to link the value of the currency to gold.

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Britain "which in the 17th century had been an economic backwater of no great significance "then became the financial capital of the world, the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, and ruler of the greatest global empire of the era.

Not bad.

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realwages
The New York Times, surveying the landscape of contemporary thought, told us recently that out of 40 "leading economists", all 40 said that a gold standard "would not improve the lives of average Americans."

At the end of the gold standard era, in the 1960s, the U.S. had the wealthiest middle class the world has ever seen.

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If the gold standard policy didn't "improve the lives of average Americans", how was it possible that, after 182 years, the average American was wealthier than ever?

It appears that 40 out of 40 "leading economists" never really bothered to think about that one.

And if you can "do better than a gold standard," as Michael Bordo told the Times, then why "in four decades" has nobody done so?

Can you spot the end of the gold standard "in 1971" on this chart? Maybe it is a coincidence.

We're supposed to be impressed by this degree of consensus among the "experts"...

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KEYWORDS: economy; gold; investing
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What we got here is Monday morning entertainment --like watching a loony-toons version of the monetary system. Back at work we all know that the "stable prices" we want is prices that don't soar one year and plummet the next for food, clothing, and shelter. At meal time we really don't care about how the price of gold rises and falls. The other thing is that average Americans being wealthy means we have more assets after debts are paid. So-called hourly earnings of a select group aren't what we look at.

This is why when we're done looking at the morning funny papers we know that compared to a century ago prices are more stable and we're better off.

1 posted on 12/14/2015 5:38:13 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

GOLD has been the standard of wealth since long before the days of the Pharaohs


2 posted on 12/14/2015 5:40:43 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: expat_panama

Full text of the House of Morgan coup attempt at the behest of the House of duPont because of the gold standard.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/plottoseizethewhitehouse


3 posted on 12/14/2015 5:41:16 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: expat_panama

That’s a crummy graph. It starts right after the end of WWII with the world in need of rebuilding and the U.S. being the biggest power with little damage on the mainland. Monetary standards are important, but so are other factors.


4 posted on 12/14/2015 5:41:32 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: expat_panama

“If the gold standard policy didn’t “improve the lives of average Americans”, how was it possible that, after 182 years, the average American was wealthier than ever?”

Maybe there were a lot of other factors involved, such as the industrial revolution, the Constitution that protected private property and individual rights, the patent system that protected intellectual rights, the literate electorate...


5 posted on 12/14/2015 5:42:25 AM PST by marktwain
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To: expat_panama

Forbes?

Isn’t that now a Chinese mag?

Just saying.


6 posted on 12/14/2015 5:42:44 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Don Corleone

My oft-repeated story-
Atlanta Journal Constitution article from 25 years ago by the local Federal Reserve president noted that since the Federal Reserve was created there were no more “runs on the bank” were people often lost their life savings like the scene in It’s a Wonderful Life. . .
Problem?
It’s a Wonderful Life takes place LONG after the creation of the Federal Reserve.
It isn’t federal, and there is no reserve.


7 posted on 12/14/2015 5:46:31 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: expat_panama

Gee, it’d be nice to see that chart extend backwards just a bit more. Say, to 1920 or so.


8 posted on 12/14/2015 5:48:58 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: expat_panama
Proverbs 14:28

In the multitude of people is the king's honour: but in the want of people is the destruction of the prince.

9 posted on 12/14/2015 5:50:49 AM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: expat_panama

Gold was the bitcoin of the day. Governments were powerless to control the value of their currencies, and , with gold, you could travel anywhere in the world and buy anything you wanted without government interference.

See why gold (and now bitcoin) has been demonized by governments worldwide?


10 posted on 12/14/2015 6:06:09 AM PST by wrench
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To: expat_panama

“This is why when we’re done looking at the morning funny papers we know that compared to a century ago prices are more stable and we’re better off.”

The 94 million Americans out of work would probably disagree with you. People who shop for groceries do not think prices are stable. People whose hours are being cut do not agree with you. What planet do you live on?


11 posted on 12/14/2015 6:06:20 AM PST by odawg
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
It isn't federal, and there is no reserve.

Created by the Federal government. Net profits returned to the Federal government.

Reserves limited to $2.4 trillion in US Treasuries, $1.7 trillion in guaranteed MBS and $280 billion in gold.

Except for that, you're right. LOL!

12 posted on 12/14/2015 6:14:24 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: odawg

yeah. I see a big disconnect between what the driveby media is saying and reality. It used to be we were all aware of this. Not anymore. So either you believe them that we are near full employment with no inflation, or you believe your lying eyes that see more people out of work then ever before, with a shrinking middle class and average income down >8% and inflation when it comes to food, healthcare and soon, energy (after our own oil industry is driven broke by the Saudis and Obama).


13 posted on 12/14/2015 6:19:45 AM PST by wattsgnu
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To: 1010RD; A Cyrenian; abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; aposiopetic; Aquamarine; ..

Yikes --Monday morning and the market's in correction!

Last Friday the 'bears clobbered the stock indexes and IBD says there's a red light in front of us.  On top of that the futures heat map says stock indexes are looking at another 2% drop, tho these futures contracts are upbeat (?).  Meanwhile metals are tanking w/ gold and silver have fallen to $1,068.85 and $13.88.

Fortunately there are no major econ reports.

14 posted on 12/14/2015 6:21:09 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Created by an Act of Congress... Yes. Owned by the banks. Right? So is it federal? NO. And your regurgitation about reserves is hilarious. Dollar denominated gold by dollars that are debt notes... Funny thing debt, it only swings one way.


15 posted on 12/14/2015 6:36:27 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: Don Corleone

As a measurement device, yes I agree. But “wealth” is, has been, and always will be, created only by productive human activity - aka “work.” For without work, nothing happens, and there is no value.


16 posted on 12/14/2015 6:38:59 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: wrench

Bitcoin terrifies the banks, don’t let them tell you different.


17 posted on 12/14/2015 6:39:29 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Owned by the banks. Right?

Depends on what you mean by owned. The Fed made over $100 billion last year. Could the "bank owners" decide to keep all those earnings?

And your regurgitation about reserves is hilarious.

I know, it really highlighted your silly claim.

Dollar denominated gold by dollars that are debt notes..

Could you try that again, in English?

18 posted on 12/14/2015 6:48:48 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: wattsgnu
or you believe your lying eyes that see more people out of work then ever before, with a shrinking middle class and average income down >8%

Where did you see that income number? The numbers I've seen show income is up.

19 posted on 12/14/2015 6:50:20 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot ("Telling the government to lower trade barriers to zero...is government interference" central_va)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#/media/File:US_Real_Household_Median_Income_thru_2012.png
It depends on your timeframe. I looked at when Obie took over till now.


20 posted on 12/14/2015 7:01:03 AM PST by wattsgnu
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