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Trump sticks to his guns on barring Muslims from US
The Pioneer ^ | Wednesday, December 9, 2015 | IANS

Posted on 12/09/2015 1:05:44 PM PST by Jyotishi

Washington - In the face of widespread criticism from across the political spectrum, Republican presidential frontrunner stuck to his guns over his controversial call to bar Muslims from entering the US.

With his supporters largely backing him, the real estate mogul and reality TV celebrity projected the call as a temporary move in response to terrorism.

He even invoked President Franklin D. Roosevelt's authorisation of the detention of Japanese, German and Italian immigrants during World War II as a precedent.

"This is a president highly respected by all; he did the same thing," Trump told MSNBC Tuesday. The nation was at war in the 1940s, he said, and it is now "at war with radical Islam."

"We have to get a hand around a very serious problem," Trump said. "And it's getting worse. And you will have more World Trade Centres and you will have more, bigger than the World Trade Centre, if we don't toughen up, smarten up, and use our heads."

Defending his proposal in a string of television interviews Tuesday morning, Trump said that fears of terrorism had made policing difficult in places like London and in Paris, the site of the Islamic State attacks on Nov 13 that killed 130 people.

On ABC, Trump clarified that his proposal would not apply to US citizens. "If a person is a Muslim, goes overseas and comes back, they can come back," he said. "They're a citizen. That's different. But we have to figure things out."

Flaying Trump for his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the country, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he was not qualified to be president.

"The fact is that what Donald Trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president, and for Republican candidates for president to stand by their pledge to support Trump, that in and of itself is disqualifying," he said.

Senate Democratic minority leader Harry Reid, went further. "Trump is saying out loud what other Republicans merely suggest," he said on the Senate floor.

Vice President Joseph. Biden told Bloomberg News Tuesday that because of Trump's "dangerous" comments, if he wins the nomination Hillary Clinton will "win in a walk."

"Tell Donald Trump: Hate is not an American value," the former secretary of state wrote on Twitter.

"This is not conservatism," said Paul Ryan, the House speaker and the Republican vice-presidential nominee in 2012. "What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and, more importantly, it's not what this country stands for."

Meanwhile, a new CNN/WMUR poll conducted by the University of New Hampshire Survey Centre before his controversial call found Trump's lead growing among likely primary voters in New Hampshire, the first primary state.

Overall, 32 percent say they support Trump (up 6 points since September), with senator Marco Rubio a distant second place with 14 percent (up 5 points).

That 18-point lead is almost double the 10-point lead Trump held in September over former HP CEO Carly Fiorina.

The New Hampshire poll comes on the heels of CNN/ORC surveys in Iowa and nationally both showing Trump with growing leads over the rest of the Republican field.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bernadino; biden; donald; elections; immigration; isis; islam; islammuslim; muslim; refugee; terrorism; trump; trumpwasright

1 posted on 12/09/2015 1:05:44 PM PST by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

What a bunch of mewling, mealy-mouthed bunch of PC RINOs. They are too politically correct to safeguard the country and therefore disqualified to be president. If Trump gets the nomination, I’ll gladly vote for him.


2 posted on 12/09/2015 1:11:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: Jyotishi

Trump could have even cited Jimmy Carter’s ban on visas being issued to Iranians during the Iranian hostage crisis, which also brought about the deportation of 15,000 Iranians who had overstayed their previously issued visas.


3 posted on 12/09/2015 1:17:48 PM PST by euram
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Does that mean the next president can ban Jews?

Guys, this isn’t a well thought out plan.


4 posted on 12/09/2015 1:33:19 PM PST by redgolum
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To: redgolum
Guys, this isn't a well thought out plan.

It is well thought out. The Jewish religion doesn't condone killing non believers. It's ok to make rational moral judgments, calm down.

5 posted on 12/09/2015 1:36:44 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: redgolum
Does that mean the next president can ban Jews?

Conceivably.

Guys, this isn’t a well thought out plan.

How so?

6 posted on 12/09/2015 1:41:23 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: central_va

Except the other side is MUCH more afraid of Christians than of muslims.

By making explicit policy based on religion, you make it that much easier for them to come after other religions.

That is why this isn’t well thought out. It would create a precedent that will be used against us.


7 posted on 12/09/2015 1:41:25 PM PST by redgolum
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To: papertyger

Since when is it a “Right” for anyone to immigrate to this country?


8 posted on 12/09/2015 1:43:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: redgolum

“By making explicit policy based on religion, . . .”

But Islam isn’t a religion, being a war plan and a death cult.


9 posted on 12/09/2015 1:48:25 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

The future must not belong to those who deny the true nature of Islam.

John Quincy Adams on Islam

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).


10 posted on 12/09/2015 1:51:12 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Islamophobia? It is not irrational to fear evil)
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To: Jyotishi

Islam should not be accepted as a legitimate religion. Once it is understood that it is not there will be no problem keeping muslims out and banning the practice in the U.S.


11 posted on 12/09/2015 1:52:26 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: redgolum
By making explicit policy based on religion, you make it that much easier for them to come after other religions.

Only if you let them. We didn't have a problem making Mormons disavow polygamy. Sharia would be no different.

12 posted on 12/09/2015 1:55:32 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: redgolum

“Does that mean the next president can ban Jews?”

No, there are no Jewish terrorists (if there are any in the first place) killing Americans.


13 posted on 12/09/2015 1:55:37 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: TigersEye

“Islam should not be accepted as a legitimate religion.”

Bingo! Islam is a death cult and a war plan to take over the world.


14 posted on 12/09/2015 1:58:56 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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