South Carolina evangelicals coalescing around Cruz

Politico ^ | 12/09/15 | Katie Glueck

[HiTech RedNeck]

LOLZVILLE

[HiTech RedNeck]

The question is whether Mr. Steady has been preparing for the wrong war.

Trump might overstep, might overshoot, but he might also have a better idea of what he is facing. He isn’t fighting yesterday’s war.

[Isara]

Trump's Record on Civil-liberty Issue: (from the Conservative Review)

"Trump has an inconsistent record when it comes to civil liberties. He supported the NSA mass surveillance program but did not weigh in on the recently passed reforms. Overall, he has avoided commenting on religious freedom, but says he would be an advocate for Christians. Trump supports an individual’s right to make unlimited campaign contributions, but advocates for an end to soft money in politics. Most concerning is Trump’s belief that the government can use eminent domain powers to seize private property for economic benefit for others."

Trump supports the NSA’s metadata collection program, saying, “I support legislation which allows the NSA to hold the bulk metadata. For oversight, I propose that a court, which is available any time on any day, is created to issue individual rulings on when this metadata can be accessed.” This position was identical to the NSA’s mass surveillance program before being reformed by the USA Freedom Act. (Newsweek) 

Trump has avoided commenting on religious freedom since Indiana passed its Religious Freedom and Restoration Act into law. Instead, he has said that he will be the “greatest representative of the Christians they've had in a long time” if elected president. (Christian Today) (Breitbart)  

Trump believes political soft money should be banned, while individuals should be allowed to make unlimited contributions. "If I were drawing a political cartoon to represent the situation, it would include a very large guy with a huge bag of money. On that bag would be written one word: soft. Soft money is the bane of the current system and we need to get rid of it." (The America We Deserve) 

Trump supported the Supreme Court’s 2005 decision in Kelo v. City of New London, giving public authorities the right to seize private land for economic development by private investors. Trump said, “I happen to agree with [the decision] 100 percent.” (National Review)

Trump highlighted his support for prosecuting "hate crimes" against homosexuals in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. “Hate Crime” is a term used to extend special protections for a specific classes and in essence elevates the importance of these classes above others. For example, murder of homosexual or heterosexual should be viewed equally under the law and punished equally. Creating special classes is a liberal tactic used to divide and segment society.(Google Books)

Trump said that Kim Davis should not have been jailed for refusing to issue gay marriage licenses. He also said that she should allow her deputy clerks to do so, but also said that 30 miles away you can get a license so people should do that. He added, "The decision's been made, and that is the law of the land." (CNN)

Much like his stance on eminent domain, Donald Trump has shown a troubling tendency to want to use the power of government to stifle political speech. When the conservative Club for Growth released an advertisement regarding Trump's changing positions on taxation, Trump responded with a legal letter calling for them to cease and desist the advertisements. A chilling move towards the silencing of political speech. (Politico)

Donald Trump attacked SuperPACs (political action committees) in the third Republican debate. By suggesting they should be outlawed he came out against the First Amendment protection of speech, and echoed progressive talking points. (Time)

[Vision Thing]

Aiiiiiieee! The polka dots!

lol! I like Jane Long's name for it: The Twister game board.

[dmz]

With all due respect . . I don’t believe the results at all. Go Trump 2016

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And back atcha, with all due respect, there is not a Trump supporter here at FR that believes any poll on which trump is not leading.

[HiTech RedNeck]

We’re looking at what happens in traditional GOP bases, some of which are more thoughtful than others. Notice again that these righteously living folks have somehow not managed to get Lindsay Graham to budge.

Trump is spanning party lines however to get almost equal support among traditional Democrat voters. The reason is easy to see. The Democrat elites have nobody to fill the vacuum that Trump fills. They’re in way too much lefty lockstep to be able to do that. The Blue Dog of yesteryear still exists (hello Kim Davis) though it more and more decides to become elephant.

[FreeReign]

With all due respect . . I don’t believe the results at all. Go Trump 2016

Nothing wrong with disagreeing with somebody's rating system, but if you don't give an example of what is wrong with it, then you haven't made a point.

[cripplecreek]

Speaking of twister check out post 14 (and many other hits)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2841560/posts

[HiTech RedNeck]

If we were to ask where Trump is evolving “to” it would be of less use. Many of Isara’s bullet lists are from several years back in situations where Trump has since addressed the issue in terms that are more conservative friendly. If Trump is feeling out greater America on this, it makes eminent sense that he is going to be evolving in this direction.

Now we might be uncomfortable with the idea of something that was evolved just in time, but the major choices seem to be between that and a fixed paragon of yesteryear’s conservatism, or else outright rotten this or that or the other. What to do. We may have to go outside our comfort zones.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And as I have pointed out a problem with yesteryear’s conservatism is that it is based on a model of a society that is outdated — in fact, one that has not rammed smack into the wall and doesn’t have a lot of urgent things to fix. The nuanced way Ted wants to address the misbehaving-immigrant problem is characteristic of this.

For better or worse Trump seems better poised to be able to stop the damage and pick up the pieces. Someone like Cruz could cut in when the chaos has been mitigated. A Trump/Cruz ticket might be an ideal way to stage this, incidentally.

[Axeslinger]

Don’t live in the South, do you?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well yee haw my red neck, but why aren’t they doing very much about (again) Graham....

[sitetest]

Sen. Cruz has my vote.

[Jane Long]

LOL!!!

I actually ‘borrowed’ that phrase from another FReeper, so I can’t take credit :)

[FourPeas]

Go Cruz, go!

[Axeslinger]

THAT is a paradox known but to God! :)

[Vision Thing]

Even though you borrowed the Twister board game theme from someone else, I’m glad you shared it on other threads because it made me laugh.

Just a mere mention of the Twister board game on any thread is enough to remind us of that chart, even if the chart is nowhere to be seen on the thread.

[FourPeas]

[kygolfman]

He’s locking down pastors in every county”

Why the hell is this a priority? These people couldn’t keep Graham out of the Senate, but we keep seeing them as some spectacular voting bloc.

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Yes...why in the world would we want those people that cling to God, guns, and religion to vote. /sarcasm

Is that you Barack??

[VanDeKoik]

You really didnt read what I wrote, did you?