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Obama: Gun Control a National Security Issue
Weekly Standard ^ | 12/6/15 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 12/06/2015 5:35:06 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Nachum
Congress should act to make sure no one on a no fly list is able to buy a gun. What could possibly be the argument for allowing a terror suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon?

Yes, how could we possibly object to being put on a secret list by some bureaucrat with a political agenda and no legal process to appeal it?

41 posted on 12/06/2015 5:58:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: caver

Yep, on the no fly list and no legal option to appeal it.


42 posted on 12/06/2015 5:59:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: Nachum
This phrasing -- that gun control is a 'national security issue' -- is the most troubling comment in the speech.

Presidents are given broad latitude of action when it relates to 'national security issues'.

43 posted on 12/06/2015 6:01:59 PM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: Nachum

Never let a crisis go to waste.

Disarming the citizenry in the face of an ever increasingly corrupt federal government is his primary goal.

Islamic terrorism furthers his cause which is why he’s bringing mobs of Muslims into the country.


44 posted on 12/06/2015 6:01:59 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Salami, peanut butter and some others often appear to cameras to resemble Semtex, or C4 plastic explosives.

Let me be clear I’m not accusing your friend of anything.

They’re probably trying to deter anyone from ever carrying things that make them do their jobs at all, and that job seems to be investigating people concerned about ClockBoy, etc.


45 posted on 12/06/2015 6:02:20 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The No-Fly-No-Buy List.
46 posted on 12/06/2015 6:02:41 PM PST by Lazamataz ( If they try firearm confiscation or gun registration, I go ballistic.)
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To: Nachum

GEE! Who controls the no-fly list? NOW that same person wants us to all be on it so he can take away our weapons.

Ain’t he cute.


47 posted on 12/06/2015 6:07:04 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Lazamataz

“This phrasing — that gun control is a ‘national security issue’ — is the most troubling comment in the speech.”

Good point.

While referencing “Congress” as the proper entity to fix his fictitious ‘national security issue’, then when Congress doesn’t perform, he thinks that he will have the authority to fix it because Congress didn’t act on the ‘national security issue.’


48 posted on 12/06/2015 6:07:47 PM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Nachum
Denying rights protected by the Bill of Rights should only happen as a consequence of due process where the person is convicted in a court of law by a jury of peers for an act serious enough to require incarceration to keep the public safe. A "no fly list" is a secret document maintained by bureaucrats. There is no due process involved in placing a person on the list and no established process for being removed. It is a handy tool for politicians to punish enemies in a manner that defies reversal. Call your congress critters and insist that the "no fly list" is not a valid basis for denying rights protected by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
49 posted on 12/06/2015 6:08:46 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: caver

The Tea Party members will immediately find themselves on the no-fly list.


50 posted on 12/06/2015 6:08:56 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Nachum

We have too much gun control and it impedes the ability of citizens to defend themselves in a moment of emergency.


51 posted on 12/06/2015 6:09:19 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: glasseye

Have they told her why she is on the no fly list?


52 posted on 12/06/2015 6:10:15 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: glasseye
My niece is on the no fly list.

I'll bet she has no idea how or why she is on the list. Further, she won't be told why and won't be allowed to pursue removal from the list. It needs go away.

53 posted on 12/06/2015 6:11:01 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Nachum

Go to hell, Barry.


54 posted on 12/06/2015 6:11:35 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Nachum

55 posted on 12/06/2015 6:11:47 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: gaijin

She was an acquaintance, not an ongoing friend

But she was doing something she had done many times before, and had reason to believe was OK. I’ve been told many times that processed food is not a problem.

I fly occasionally, and every time I go, it’s something different—shoes on, shoes off, nylon belt on, belt off anyway, computer out of case, power supply and cables ok in pack; then not ok. They must be making this up as they go along. I understand varying security, but these things seem aimless and meaningless.


56 posted on 12/06/2015 6:12:10 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Arm_Bears

It is. Guns produce CO2.


57 posted on 12/06/2015 6:12:34 PM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: Nachum
So if someone is not a US citizen, and is too much of a risk to buy a firearm or to fly, why is he or she still in the country?

And if someone is a US citizen, and is too much of a risk to buy a firearm or to fly, why is he or she not under indictment or in prison?

58 posted on 12/06/2015 6:15:05 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." - Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859))
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To: Nachum

The Frook didn’t buy his own guns.


59 posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:12 PM PST by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti iIt is not an act of Terrorism. It is simple old fashioned( liberali sono feccia.)
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To: Nachum

So I’m thinking that in the near future there will be a policy that if you own a gun, you should be on the no fly list. Once on the no fly list you can not buy a gun or maybe even own a gun.

Neatly done.


60 posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:30 PM PST by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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